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  • Tammy on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    If God abhors evil and is always against it then why does Isaiah 45:7 state, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." I understand that God does all things at all times but why does it state that He created evil? Isnt that going against God's stance on evil? Thank you for your time and God bless.
  • Marke - In Reply on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    God does claim power to create calamities, but He does not sin, does not encourage humans to sin, and did not create sin in Adam that subsequently was passed on to every human born into the world.
  • Dav47 - In Reply on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    if you cause enough trouble God will cause you some problems is what HE is saying; HE didn't create evil but HE can sure give evil people some trouble when they cause evil. GOD is incapable of evil but HE will allow calamity to come about. evil here is Heb. ra= has many uses here in this context is rendered calamity/tumult. GOD naming Cyrus before he was born, 1 of only 7 GOD named; subject here is GOD uses Cyrus for HIS purpose to cause calamity/tumult to subdue nations for HIS purpose as stated in Verse 1
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    Hi Tammy.

    These verses from Isaiah 45, verses 1 to 7, is a discourse to Cyrus, the Persian King, revealing Who this God is, the One who will use the king as His instrument. So verse 7 comes as a further reminder to Cyrus that this God is unlike anyone else: He creates Light & He has the power to remove it (once Light from a source is removed, darkness prevails - it's the default with the absence of light) - in so doing, it can also be read, that darkness was then created.

    He also can bring about peace (or, happiness, prosperity to the individual or the world) & He can choose to remove it (thereby evil will become present & rampant (as a default state), with Satan's influence upon man & the world). Again, as with the removal of light, the removal of peace results in the creation of evil (turmoil, disaster). The Lord doesn't create the evil for evil's sake (He can't do it, He is Holy), but at times, chooses to remove what withholds that peace, thereby allowing evil to be manifested, thus it being created. The Lord has the power to do all things, which the Persian gods could never do.

    We know that in the beginning evil was never in the world. Satan's heart was lifted up against God & evil was born. All the evil around us comes from Satan & not from God. And evil continues to abound as God stays His Hand against its raging tide.
  • ELB - In Reply on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    Tammy:

    God is LOVE; but how do you know what love is, without knowing what hate is?

    God is LIGHT; but how do you know light, is without knowing what darkness is?

    God is LIFE; but how do you know what life, is without knowing what death is?

    God is TRUTH; but how do you know what truth, is without knowing what deception is?

    God is WISDOM; but how do you know what wisdom, is without knowing what ignorance is?

    The tree of KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL, are in the same TREE, when we eat the FRUIT we HAVE KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL.

    Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold they have become like ONE OF US (Gods) to KNOW GOOD and EVIL.

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate, to be conformed to the image of his Son (God) ....

    Philippians 2:5 Let this mind BE IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:5 Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with GOD.

    Isaiah 66:9 Shall I not bring TO BIRTH, and not cause to bring forth? ......

    Isaiah 66:8 ....for as soon a Zion travailed, she brought forth her children (gods: in the AGE TO COME).

    God Bless YOU!
  • Kay - In Reply on Isaiah 45 - 1 year ago
    I like John Gill's comments on this portion of that verse, Tammy:

    I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see ( Job 2:10 ) ( Amos 3:6 ) : I the Lord do all these things;

    Blessings!



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