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  • Gabriel Beaven - 1 year ago
    God I'm ready to give up. I'm ready to just say that's it and be done with it all. Am I really destined for hell. Should I really be suffering this long. God I know I'm a bad person I know I have said some messed up things that I should have never ever uttered from my mouth and in doing so am now living in utter hell. Everyday is a reminder of how bad I screwed up a relationship a love that I wanted so much. Why don't you just save me the time and turn your back as you said you would do in the Bible. I prayed for her to come back Gabby. Nothing not a sign not a wonder not anything just utter pain and despair and hopelessness.
  • Donna - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Praying for you tonight Brother Gabriel.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Gabriel,

    I just said a prayer for you. Thanks for reaching out to the Christian community with your heavy burden.

    I don't know what you're going through but it probably feels like you're in an impossible situation right now. But please know that countless people have also gone through impossible-seeming situations and made it through stronger. I'm sure that sounds impossible to you at this time, but that is true. Sometimes people are so consumed with their situation that they have blinders on and don't even see the exit signs that allow one to escape. When they do its as though fog is lifted and things seem so much different- this can happen very quickly. Please don't give up, because God may have something in store for you if you hang in there just a tiny bit longer. Take it one day at a time.

    This is only a speculation, but maybe you feel heavy guilt or remorse over something you've done. But aside from blaspheming the holy spirit, there's no sin that God won't forgive. That's how much He loves you and He died for you to accept that free gift. People always falsely assume what they did must not be forgiven, because x reasons. But people don't set God's criteria for forgiveness, God does. While He's forgiven you, you must also start forgiving yourself.

    It's worth mentioning that many times people have a hard time separating reality from feelings. I'm not sure if you fall into this category or not, but this affects so many people it's worth mentioning. Feelings can change on a whim and sometimes are based on false perceptions of reality. For example, the feeling of "hopelessness" is not reality but a personal interpretation that is subject to change. Many people one day feel in despair but after an unexpected call from a friend or a new realization or answered prayer, the next moment they may feel hope. Why? Things can interrupt our patterns of thinking and there are exercises we can even do now to fight against it. For instance, taking Phil 4:8 literally.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I don't have friends. I don't trust people and when I do they let me down. Very few I would say have stood the test of time and they're all dead. I don't want to go through this life without her. I keep praying and I get nowhere. It's a punishment. I would love to be able to microwave a prayer and set it to the lowest setting. I think about ending it and then darn I have work in the morning. Im tired of people which thankfully no one has. You need to talk to someone. Right I need to talk to someone that gets paid to care. I see that working out well. I've tried to do the whole religious thing too many rules too many things go astray. Im a spirit roaming the earth. That's what we all are a spirit. Not human a spirit. If I told you my situation the human would say no way dude it's impossible you screwed up enjoy your pain. What can I do but lay in my own loneliness. I try to fill my time with working but after work and playing pretend reality sets in. It's a show like none other and there's only one channel.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yeah I have a lot of guilt and a lot of remorse. Im a horrible person and it's a reminder of it every day.

    The lyrics are by Celine Dion.

    What's left to say?

    These prayers ain't working anymore

    Every word shot down in flames

    What's left to do with these broken pieces on the floor?

    I'm losing my voice calling on you

    'Cause I've been shaking

    I've been bending backwards till I'm broke

    Watching all these dreams go up in smoke

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    And when I pray to God all I ask is

    Can beauty come out of ashes?

    Can you use these tears to put out the fires in my soul?

    'Cause I need you here, woah

    'Cause I've been shaking

    I've been bending backwards till I'm broke

    Watching all these dreams go up in smoke

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    And when I pray to God all I ask is

    Can beauty come out of ashes?

    Can beauty come out of ashes?

    What's left to say these prayers ain't working anymore Adam.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Whether I'm down here or up there in Heaven. I'll be judged and always reminded by God. You must suffer because that's what I want you to do.

    God sets the rules.
  • Digman - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jesus unbind this soul away from the cords of depression regarding this matter, as You did to afflictions in the NT. Amen.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you for your prayers it's been rough and I don't know what to do anymore. It has been a living hell and Im waiting to see relief. Though if I told you my story I may deserve to be in hell. People do change.
  • David - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Trust in the Lord Gabe , trust in his word , His promises are real , His promises are true , He will never leave you or forsake you , Come all unto me who Labor and of Heavey burden and I will give you rest , Give it all to him . take your hands off the situation and turn it all over to the Lord , You are in my prayers Gabe , trust in the Lord with all thine Heart , and lean not into thine own understanding
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I keep praying for a sign and nothing. I keep hoping the next day will be better but it just gets worse and worse and then I can't seem to lift my head above the water
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gabriel, thanks for the comment. Please remember that your thoughts make up most of your experience and you can change your thoughts. If you can change your thoughts you can change your feelings and experience. We can deceive ourselves by assuming reality is only the narrow view of our current perception. For example if I buy a red Honda suddenly I see red Hondas everywhere as if its a conspiracy. The technical term for this is confirmation bias. So, if I assume God 'never' answers prayer, that my life always stinks, my mental focus on that is like a self-fulfilling prophesy.

    Whereas, if I woke up every day in prayer and expectation for a blessed day. Maybe I woke up praying that I could use my gifts to help someone else that day, even if something small like saying hi to someone alone or sending a kind email to someone. That one act has value to someone else and they appreciate you and you will in turn feel you have value and feel good about yourself. Maybe I imagined myself as appointed by God to be in this world for a reason- to be a light in the darkness. Maybe if you just do one simple obedient act of kindness per day you will feel your life has value (it does). This positive expectation will yield very different results than having a negative expectation. I hope I have explained this to where it resonates with you. In my opinion life is largely a mental challenge and a test of our character. Loving God and loving others. It's easy to get discouraged if we let the enemy take control of our thoughts, but he's not in control of that, you are. Hang in there, friend.

    BTW the reason I got into this topic is some of your words stood out to me as currently having negative expectation 'worse and worse' and head above water, etc. In my opinion you are just as likely have a great day tomorrow- it largely depends on your positive mindset, which is why I briefly mentioned that in hope you find value in it and might trigger a mental paradigm shift. God bless!
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    It's easier said than done Adam. My life has been very difficult. I didn't prophesy that I grew up in it. All the ones I loved died. I have relatives that are very negative towards me. I have been told I'm not welcomed over at my moms house because her new husband said I'm not welcomed over there partly because of what I felt that's a different story for a different day. I keep trying and unless you walked in my shoes you would know and say I get it. Why would a God that says He is love do this to one He created. It seems like a sick joke. I brought you this person and because you in part royally screwed things up now you must suffer. God forgives you now forgive yourself yet at the end we're going to be judged. I hear a voice talking to me and I have prayed and haven't received a sign. Where are you God it's me Gabriel. I could go on but you see that's just it. So many questions and so much that is unanswered. I find it odd that the people telling you to stay afloat are the ones that aren't doing too bad themselves. It's kinda like hey look where I am and if you believe you will too. I do believe we speak things into existence. It's hard for me to see otherwise. Let's see if God proves me wrong. I mean I don't think of God is fair and just and wants to make a point He would just let me lay here in my own spirits blood. Maybe He would. I've been laying in it long enough.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gabriel,

    Have you clicked on the Prayer Requests part of this website? You might consider doing that and reading through people's concerns. Some have thoughts of suicide and are in very desperate situations. If you find it in your heart to write a note of encouragement to some I think it might be a positive experience for you.

    It sounds like you're blaming God for your current state. God never promised things would be easy, but the Bible says the opposite that we will face great trials, especially as a Christian. Life is VERY difficult for everyone. It's not easy to compare, because we only see part of the picture.

    You wrote: "I find it odd that the people telling you to stay afloat are the ones that aren't doing too bad themselves. It's kinda like hey look where I am and if you believe you will too. "

    Perhaps you don't yet realize that the very people who have taken time to write a note of encouragement to hang in there have likely already gone through extreme trials such as depression, suicidal thoughts, hopelessness, despair, feeling unworthy of love, feeling unloved, without friends, without family, and more. It seems you have assumed the opposite.

    When you get through your current valley (notice my positive expectation of you?) and have a new perspective on things and realize new things about yourself, would you not also be willing to help others going through what you just went through? I see that several people responded to you in love and care for you and I hope you take that to heart. God bless you.

    I recommend reading the book of Job tonight. He had everything, then lost everything in an extreme circumstance. He begged God why, why?! Then God answers.

    After that I recommend reading about Paul. Aside from Jesus he was probably the most influencial Christian evangelist in world history- wrote more books of the Bible than anyone else. And he had a horrible past and killed people, then had horrible challenges. Read it and learn from it. God bless.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Even in the story of job which I knew you were going to tell me about. Job had the nerve to tell God "You know you could learn a thing or two from me." How can a God that would do that to His own child be so loving. Let the devil take over and ruin His life. You may think you know but you don't. There are many questions out there that you know nothing about. It's easy to determine unless it's a situation where we offer sympathy or we say oh wait a minute that's unfair. The story of Job is highly unfair. It shows me that you are at the mercy of the Satan and where Satan is because God allowed it. Remember though you think I haven't read job. God had a meeting and said "Oh Satan from where do you come from? Satan replied see that planet down there I am the ruler. Have you considered my servant job there is none like him.

    This is when we see the test begin. Does Job love you for nought. Take away all He has stricken him and he will surely curse you to your face. God at anytime could of said No I'm not doing that. He allowed it but you can't kill him.

    I mean the story goes on to where you pretty much see job almost curse God almost. At one point like I said you see Job pretty much say to God you know you could learn a lot from me. I've been shaken I'm broken and I would take the time to understand rather than accuse. You said in one of your replies While I may not understand. It was something along those lines. You won't know the story unless you really say ok I'm gonna try to understand this. I work at a retirement/nursing home. Those people have my heart. Helpless and in need and I implore myself to fight for them when I see them being mistreated. Just like anyone here. One lady who is dear said her dad fell and is now not doing so well. I care more than you know. Im not inconsiderate or selfish. Just simply voicing my frustration and asking questions as spirits we all should do that.

    Thank you
  • Donna - In Reply - 1 year ago
    It's the middle of the night and I'm up praying for you.

    Know that

    He is with you.

    He is faithful.

    A friend that sticks closer than a brother.

    He cares for YOU
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I thank you dear one. It's not easy. Every day this spirit bleeds more and more. I've cried so much and loosing my voice.

    Kind of like the song.

    By Celine Dion

    What's left to say?

    These prayers ain't working anymore

    Every word shot down in flames

    What's left to do with these broken pieces on the floor?

    I'm losing my voice calling on you

    'Cause I've been shaking

    I've been bending backwards till I'm broke

    Watching all these dreams go up in smoke

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    And when I pray to God all I ask is

    Can beauty come out of ashes?

    Can you use these tears to put out the fires in my soul?

    'Cause I need you here, woah

    'Cause I've been shaking

    I've been bending backwards till I'm broke

    Watching all these dreams go up in smoke

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    Let beauty come out of ashes

    And when I pray to God all I ask is

    Can beauty come out of ashes?

    Can beauty come out of ashes?
  • Lena - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Psalms 23 Psalms 91
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I've read both of them over and over and in no end in sight. I keep expecting things see gonna change then nothing. I don't know what's keeping me here. Thank you for praying
  • Donna - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Job's wife said "curse God and die!"

    But I say " Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and he will give you the desires of your heart!"

    I went through the same thing as you are going through now. I did it all wrong. I tried to do it myself I took my eyes off of the Lord and I backslid caused myself and my family a lot of heartache near death experiences and pain not to mention poverty and sickness. The enemy had a field day in my life and ruined my testimony. I can tell you right now, if you want victory you need to seek the Lord with all your heart. Be willing to let Gabby go. I'm not saying you have to, but be willing to and let the Lord know that you are. Stay on your face before him see him with all your heart. If you walk away from God the devil will have you and he only wants to kill steal and destroy you. Remember God gave you a promise he told you he was going to fix this! How long are you willing to wait? Seek ye first the kingdom of God brother It's the only way you'll have victory. God will change hearts he can do that! Hang in there and stand on His promise that He made you. It's going to be really hard and you're gonna have to be really strong. Stay on your face before the Lord and cry it out to Him.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Well so far it's been 5 months and I'm literally wondering where what else is there. Im surprised I'm here. Donna you have always been so kind to me. I keep you in my prayers but I really do feel Gods like your gonna suffer now because you got yourself into this. Does it not say in the Bible God turns His back on us?
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Gabriel, I am sorry you are in so much anguish. I will keep you in my prayers. I hope you will consider what Donna has suggested: To seek God, His kingdom, and His righteousness first, before all others, in all circumstances. Seek to glorify

    God in your life right now. Despite the great pain you are experiencing, God will walk with you through this. He loves you more than you could ever know and is able to do what seems impossible. At times when I have been at my lowest, going through dark valleys, I have used my alone time to pray, read the Word, and in repentance for my sinfulness. God forgives us every time we come to Him for mercy and grace. I also focused on the greatness and perfection of God so that my "eyes" were no longer upon myself and my circumstances but on His glory and the wonder of His revelation of Himself to us in the Word.

    But I do realize that many of these words from us may ring hollow for you right now. But please know that we all mean well for you and are very concerned for you. Many of us here will be praying for you. Please keep coming here and sharing your grief. We bear one anothers' burdens this way and this promotes healing of our brokenness.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi i'm telling you what you said about we all bear each other's burdens really spoke to me. I understand we've all gone through a lot. I thank you for being so kind. You really know your Bible. For does it not say. A soft answer turns away wrath.

    Blessings to you and keep in touch. I will continue to pray for you.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Listen to the pain it's both history teacher and fortune teller. Pain teaches us who we are. Pain feels so bad sometimes it feels like we're dying. But we can't really live until we die a little. Just a quote I heard but worth mentioning. This situation has taught me as well I need to change and treat others better then what I did. Continue in prayer for me and you know I'm definitely praying for you.
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello again Gabriel,

    I am praying for you. I just wanted to share what I came to grips with when I was at my lowest ever and wanted to give up on the faith I had for all of my life. I prayed to God, saying, "Are You really Who You say You are in Your Word? Do You stay the same throughout time as to what You decree as right or wrong? Or are You like what some of those in church are saying about You? As I was praying this, the Holy Spirit brought to my mind what Peter said to Jesus in response to our Lord's question, "Who do you say that I am." Peter said, "Lord, to Whom else can we go, You have the words of eternal life." That really spoke volumes to me, as I came to grips that we do not have any other God to turn to, there is no other. And that only God can give us eternal life. And this life comes through faith in Jesus. So, since this life is not all there is for us and that we will live beyond the grave, the only places we have in the life to come is either heaven or hell. So this presses to me the point of where I want to spend eternity. Of course, I wanted heaven, not hell and to live in heaven forever, I must believe that God is and that He is a rewarder of those who believe in Jesus Christ, His Son, our Savior. Our God is worth knowing and eternal life is worth having. There are no two things more valuable than these.

    Gabriel, I encourage you to cast yourself upon the mercy of God. Cry out to Him to help You and be open to the way He wills to help You. It may be best to die to Your desire for Gabby by sacrificing it to God in order that You can receive the better future that God has in store for you even though you cannot see one that does not include her. Free Gabby from your life and allow God to give her the better future than you or she has in mind. This is hard to do. I have been there. It was really painful to die to a relationship I desired to recover and share my love with the man I wished to be with all of my life. But I knew I needed to that
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    If God didn't give up on us. Why should I give up on Gabby. I know it's not easy. It's like the mother that prays for her child. It's like the prodigal son. GiGi it's been rough and the boat is still rocking. I thank you for your words. It's easier said then done but I gotta keep praying and I gotta keep knowing Gods got this. If I faint in my prayer what does that say about me. You helped me with that. You didn't give up on me GiGi when this all started in fact. You were the first person who reached out to me. I can tell you really care and your spirit tells me that. This situation might look impossible but I was born to pray for an impossible situation. I am reminded those who know the truth the truth will keep popping up again and again. Even when I don't see it Gods working. I am reminded of the song by Katy Nichole called In Jesus Name. When you see that video on YouTube look at the end. God can do just that and He will. It's a trying time right now. There gonna be days when I say oh woe is me. Other days when I might feel like Jack on the titanic and feel like I'm King of the world. Regardless. I will do my best to be humble and trust in God. I continue to ask that you keep praying and stay with me on this. I can't wait to give you an update no matter what God sees what I need. I am also reminded of the song weary traveler by Jordan St Cyr. The first song I was shown when I came back to Christ that played was the song In Jesus Name. I'm praying for you. Continue to pray for this situation and remember. I'm trying. I'm trying to look above not around. It all starts in Heaven and when Gods work is done then the Heavens will open and do it shall
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good afternoon Gabriel,

    Thank you for your testimony that you will continue to believe for Gabby to be re-united to you. Perhaps that truly is God's will. It is hard to go the distance on something like this when all things point another way that what you pray for. I will continue to pray for your situation and for Gabby.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    When the prophets prayed they didn't say after nothing appeared to happened oh well I give up. God is amazing. God I know is with you GiGi. You spoke encouragement to me. You said "You know what Gabriel if you feel God put that in your heart then you trust in Him He will make a way." GiGi you were the very first one to reach out. I feel a special prayer partner connection with you. Pray for me that I do not faint. I am being attacked constantly by the devil. I truly believe when your miracle is coming. The devil tries to attack you the most. I cry out to Him and I pray for you GiGi you have a special place in my heart as a sister in Christ your faith amazes me and in that I have learned though the seasons my change and time goes on. God always makes a way. I look at this as a impossible situation. Jesus said the same thing. With man this is impossible. But with my Father in Heaven all things are possible. God is up there right now saying come on Gabriel this is so easy for me. Just wait. That's the hardest to do. I wish you could microwave your prayers. Doesn't work like that. God has a plan and GiGi if you think He's down with you. He's not he's just getting started. God has a great plan for you. I know brighter days are ahead. Yes it gets lonely. I've asked God for a sign. Please pray for that as well. A big giant sign that says your miracle is coming. God makes the way. GiGi I praise the Lord He sent me you. You always see the brighter side and see always encouraging. You definitely walk with the spirit of God. Stay in touch. Know I'm praying for you
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good evening Gabriel,

    Thank for your response . I know that God can certainly do what seems impossible, even revive what is dead. So, I will continue to pray for your miracle. I am glad to hear from you. I hope that you will sleep easy while you are waiting on God and that you will continue to do the work that God has called you to do in a good spirit and find satisfaction in your work. I pray for the Lord to bless you with new found friends who can encourage you and bless you with their presences and deep concern for the things of your heart. We all need comrades to walk with us in our difficult times. Especially people who will drop everything and come to sit with you when you feel especially down or discouraged. I pray that God will send such kind of friends as this to you soon.
  • Gabriel Beaven - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oh GiGi I am blessed beyond belief by the God of Heaven and Earth that even though I do not have anyone close. I am blessed because God sent me you as a prayer partner and as I call "Warrior Woman of God". GiGi thank you for your prayer's God will make a way He always does. I thank you for standing in Faith with me. All in all thank you for you have inspired me that even though the road ahead may look dim. God always reveals at the right time a sign. Praise to the God of Heaven and Earth He has done just that. Continue in prayer for this situation and know. With God All things are possible. I am blessed beyond belief to have you.

    Lord God I pray for GiGi. Lord God I thank you so much for her. Lord God I know you are using her in a special way. Lord God she is a prayer warrior and a woman of God. Lord God thank you for sending me GiGi. I continue to know Lord God you will bless her tremendously and I stand in faith with her that whatever she ask she shall receive by the precious blood of Jesus to Him through Him to the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. In Yeshua's Name Amen
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good Morning Gabriel, thank you for your prayers. I am praying for you and Gabby.



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