1 Corinthians Chapter 14 verse 34 and 35. Let your women keep silence in the Churches. It is a shame for women to speak in the Church, does that pertain to Modern Day Churches today. If so. please explain? There are so many Churches today women speak, and women preach The Gospel in Churches. There are women Pastors that have their own Churches.
Dear all, It says in the Holy Scriptures YES. But who wrote it? It is so easy to forget that Our dear brother Paul was a man who traveled all over the areas around Israel, all the way to Rome / Italy in fact. Jesus says nothing about the women waiting until they were spoken to. But the Master Him Self had a perfect love for the womens in His life. He taught Everyone. But the customs around where Paul went. Had customs that then meant that this was too complicated for the women. It suited very well for the men's fulfillment that the women looked after the house and at home / looked after children and cooked. Therefore then a recommended / injunction in the middle of freedom that women should learn at home. For it was the custom of the men of the Corinthian lands to do so.
Especially in Cyprus we still see this. A woman is never in a cafene as it is called. If she walks, she's a whore. There are only men. Women do not go to cafes without their husbands. Then it must be in special cafes. They are Orthodox Christians. And hold on saints and images of gods, which are then images of people who have lived. But they believe in Jesus. Many places in Cyprus, it is the Priesthood that decides more than the President, everything must go through them. It has used to be so, but I think these days there is something about the fact that Christianity must be a separate policy. So only this country shows that the customs still exist. Believe that some groups still do this among the Jews. They have it from the Law of Moses.
BUT were we not set free, Did not Jesus take and set us all free when He rose from the dead? Both men and women? Or can I say Women and Men. Some are still clinging to this. Let it be far away from us the free family!
It is very sad to hear about these male-dominated relationships around the world.
Back then the women were in a balcony or separated by partitions. They couldn't hear or wait till they got back home__when she would be expected to get the meal in the table Quickly!
THIS is 2000 years later, ok. The women, as well as the men are expected till wait till after service has ended, to ask questions. Or schedule a counsel hour in the week.
Most likely the service gets posted online so everyone can view it again; the elderly and sick included. They call the elders if in home prayer is needed. Almost every church has nursery and children's church.
This not the DARK AGES. Internet brings us close together. Churches should have volunteers for home ministry. "Our efforts done as unto to the Lord Jesus."
He rewards our servanthood.
From scripture we see Jesus telling stories to children and blessing them, in the public squares.
I see no reason to preach archaic How-to behave in church. Almost everyone would do well to take turns to participate in nursery or childrens church; benevolence to the needy (collecting items and delivery). Host a teen gab-a-thon on Friday's.
Forgive me, We are Jesus's church; with arms to hug and legs to go ye. His disciples.
The Lord bless.
Nobody preaches this so I stand on my mountain top alone. But I did those things for years, a couple of hours on a Sunday. I'm a master of funny voices, so I got frequent call backs :D
If your church doesn't have a home viewing website, maybe you can help start one?
It would apply the same today. Where it says it is a shame for women to speak in the church, it doesn't mean that she can't talk. There was something taking place in the church back then that prompted Paul to write this.
Up to this point in 1 Corinthians, we were given the procedure for the proper order in the church. From Verse 34 on, we see the principles for authority. There are seven commands that are given. The first command is in Verse 34 that says let your women keep silence in the churches. That's a command.
The word woman in scripture is also the word for wife, which meets the criteria for here. Let your women, (or wives), keep silence in the churches: Please understand that back then when they gathered together, they had men on one side of the church, and the women on the other. Men could not sit with women, and women could not sit with men.
The problem was that you would have somebody teaching, and somebody's wife is over on the other side of the church calling out to her husband across the room, and they were talking across the room and being disruptive. So Paul she's not permitted to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
That's back in Genesis 3:16 under the woman. Remember after they sinned, God said I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception. In sorrow you shall bring forth children and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Second command is in Verse 35. "And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." Notice it does not say "teach." That's covered elsewhere. So the woman was to remain silent. If she didn't understand what was being taught, she was to ask her husband at home what it meant. Also, keep in mind that the husband was responsibility to take what was being taught, and he had the responsibility to make sure that his family at home understood the teaching.
Especially in Cyprus we still see this. A woman is never in a cafene as it is called. If she walks, she's a whore. There are only men. Women do not go to cafes without their husbands. Then it must be in special cafes. They are Orthodox Christians. And hold on saints and images of gods, which are then images of people who have lived. But they believe in Jesus. Many places in Cyprus, it is the Priesthood that decides more than the President, everything must go through them. It has used to be so, but I think these days there is something about the fact that Christianity must be a separate policy. So only this country shows that the customs still exist. Believe that some groups still do this among the Jews. They have it from the Law of Moses.
BUT were we not set free, Did not Jesus take and set us all free when He rose from the dead? Both men and women? Or can I say Women and Men. Some are still clinging to this. Let it be far away from us the free family!
It is very sad to hear about these male-dominated relationships around the world.
Mark 10:1-12
THIS is 2000 years later, ok. The women, as well as the men are expected till wait till after service has ended, to ask questions. Or schedule a counsel hour in the week.
Most likely the service gets posted online so everyone can view it again; the elderly and sick included. They call the elders if in home prayer is needed. Almost every church has nursery and children's church.
This not the DARK AGES. Internet brings us close together. Churches should have volunteers for home ministry. "Our efforts done as unto to the Lord Jesus."
He rewards our servanthood.
From scripture we see Jesus telling stories to children and blessing them, in the public squares.
I see no reason to preach archaic How-to behave in church. Almost everyone would do well to take turns to participate in nursery or childrens church; benevolence to the needy (collecting items and delivery). Host a teen gab-a-thon on Friday's.
Forgive me, We are Jesus's church; with arms to hug and legs to go ye. His disciples.
The Lord bless.
Nobody preaches this so I stand on my mountain top alone. But I did those things for years, a couple of hours on a Sunday. I'm a master of funny voices, so I got frequent call backs :D
If your church doesn't have a home viewing website, maybe you can help start one?
It would apply the same today. Where it says it is a shame for women to speak in the church, it doesn't mean that she can't talk. There was something taking place in the church back then that prompted Paul to write this.
Up to this point in 1 Corinthians, we were given the procedure for the proper order in the church. From Verse 34 on, we see the principles for authority. There are seven commands that are given. The first command is in Verse 34 that says let your women keep silence in the churches. That's a command.
The word woman in scripture is also the word for wife, which meets the criteria for here. Let your women, (or wives), keep silence in the churches: Please understand that back then when they gathered together, they had men on one side of the church, and the women on the other. Men could not sit with women, and women could not sit with men.
The problem was that you would have somebody teaching, and somebody's wife is over on the other side of the church calling out to her husband across the room, and they were talking across the room and being disruptive. So Paul she's not permitted to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
That's back in Genesis 3:16 under the woman. Remember after they sinned, God said I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception. In sorrow you shall bring forth children and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Second command is in Verse 35. "And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." Notice it does not say "teach." That's covered elsewhere. So the woman was to remain silent. If she didn't understand what was being taught, she was to ask her husband at home what it meant. Also, keep in mind that the husband was responsibility to take what was being taught, and he had the responsibility to make sure that his family at home understood the teaching.
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