Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Donna
    I want to get baptized in water. There seems to be some kind of dilemma with certain people about getting baptized in the name of Jesus only ( Acts 2:38). Peter said that. But I read in Matthew 28:19 that JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF said to baptize them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit So am I to take away the commandment of Jesus Christ who is God? Peter didn't say Jesus ONLY did he? So do we delete what Jesus says for us to do before He ascended to the Father? How do we justify that? How can we deny His command? I mean it's pretty clear right? And since when did anyone's authority trump the authority of Jesus Christ? Except God the Father..if we say that someone added that verse to the Bible and it's not relevant, isn't that an attack on Gods word? I feel like the Lord God would not allow that to happen. He is God after all. Why would he allow that to happen? And if we start taking scriptures out of the Bible Well you can see where I'm going with that.
  • Alex N - in Reply
    Lemme give ya my view on Baptism...When Jesus asked that woman at the well for drink he said whosoever drinks of this water shall thirst Again...Thats salvation by water baptism...But H.G. BAPTISM IS A HEAVENLY WATER WHICH IS THE GIFT OF GOD

    But the water that i will give him shall be a well of water springing up unto everlasting life...Thats H.G. Baptism...Our thirst for Salvation cannot be quenched by Water Baptism...But only by H.G BAPTISM....There is only 1 baptism of PROMISE which is H.G. baptism...The gift of God the Promise

    ......When Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you that was baptism of the H.G....Which was the birth of a baby Christ the H.G that Child of Promise...As he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE..The multiplication of Christ in humanity via his seed his WORDS..His breath,..When he breathe on them he was propagating very God which is the H.G. THAT CHILD OF PROMISE...Thats y Jesus is saying unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...Thats y we refer to the H.G as the Child of Promise...He is the multiplication of CHRIST IN US VIA HIS SEED THE WORD....The Granson the beginning of an Israel of God born in humanity.

    .....Jesus cd not refer to the H.G. as the Promise if he were not the multiplication of Christ in humanity...The Son of man...Mankinds fruit unto God.

    .....That was the original Promise when God swore by himself...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the H.G. wants to be born in us via the seed of Christ Jesus...Thats y the new birth is so important...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child...You will in no wise enter there in....i know that i am being repititious but i cannot help it i am obsessed with the seed of the Sower and baptism of the H.G. THE Promise...That living water..We are gonna have a Baby...She brought forth a manchild...which is the H.G....Emanuel...I see in the spirit.
  • Bj - in Reply
    trust in the Holy Spirit to lead you I have heard so many ideas on baptism but I believe it is an outward symbol of what God has done in your heart it's not about church membership and only the blood can wash away your sin it also symbolizes death and burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord In Christ amen
  • When and Where To Be Bsptized - in Reply
    Ask your Pastor, or his wife; if you can be baptized. Not all churches have baptismals; and perform them on Sundays. We did ours on Wednesdays, which was well attended and with a brief teaching on why be baptized.

    You can actually be baptized in a swimming pool (it's not a party) as a solemn moment.

    Call your church first. They will make the arrangements.
  • Bro dan - in Reply
    Hi Donna,

    Being baptized in Jesus name includes God, and the Holy Sprit, as they (all three) are ONE!

    Being baptized in Jesus name, or being baptized in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - is equally the same.

    Hope this helps you.

    God Bless.
  • Donna - in Reply
    Thank you for your reply. It still doesn't make sense to me then why would Jesus be so specific? When he said specifically be baptized in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit? I don't believe that Jesus would say anything to confuse us. Couldn't really be that simple? Just be baptized in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit? Would that cover peters command to be baptized in the name of Jesus? He didn't say Jesus only did he?

    We know that confusion is of the devil. There shouldn't be any confusion Jesus said it. He told us how to do it in his name. So I'm wondering why my I see it in black and white actually red, but people are trying to say that it's not what it is
  • Giannis - in Reply
    Dear Donna.

    It seems there is a contradiction between Matthew's and Acts' scripture. Not actually. Isn't Luke that writes in the Acts to be baptized in the name of Jesus only? Yes he is. But this is short for being baptized in the name of Father and the Son and the Holly Spitri. How do we know that? OK lets go to. Acts 19: 1-7, when Paul meets some disciples of John the Baptist in Ephesus.

    He asks them if they had been baptized in the Spirit. They tell him they haven't even heard of a Holly Spirit. Now be careful what Paul asks them. He asks in what name have they been baptised in water. If the answer is in the name of Jesus only, Paul's question has no point at all. But if the answer is in the name of F and S and HS then his question has a point. He asks them how come you haven't heard of the HS, when you got baptised in water didn't you hear it? It is Luke that writes that, in spite of him having written before to be baptized only in the name of Jesus. So that is short for the proper saying "in the name of Father and the Son and the Holly Spirit."

    GBU
  • Adam - in Reply
    Dear Donna,

    You bring up an interesting question that I've never thought about before, but it doesn't trouble me like it may trouble you.

    Like it says in 1 Peter 5:7 I would pray to God and fully give any burden or concerns about this to Him. Ask for peace in return.

    I personally don't think the words said or not said by someone helping you be baptized are magical nor will be any determining factor on the legitimacy of your baptism. The power is not in any specific words spoken by someone else, but in the act of obedience on your part for taking an action step to follow Jesus.

    My second observation is that many verses in the Bible cover things in different levels of detail. Acts 2:38 to me is just an general statement about baptism which is correct. And Matthew 28:19 seems to have a little more detail about in the name of and lists the Godhead. So, if a minister says either one, I think it's ok. The latter reference is more detailed complete answer IMO.

    Some people get caught up on who they are praying to as well, and I totally understand the confusion, but while I personally believe prayers are generally to God the Father spoken through Jesus with aid of the Holy Spirit, I also think its fine to pray to Lord or Jesus or God in general. I think God will receive the message either way and knows our heart.

    Another example is early in Genesis it says male and female were created then later it goes into detail about how each came about, just like a story with a thesis or overview with details in the body. But many assume that hey, male and female were already created so how come there's 2 accounts of it. The answer is its the same, one is an overview, and the other is detail. And this is how I interpret these 2 verses. Judas's death is the similar too- 2 different accounts with focus on different things at different times.

    Congratulations on deciding to be baptized! Have excitement and peace over your great decision!
  • Free - in Reply
    Dear "Donna", here you have someone who also thinks these are important words and the words of the Bible KJV speak to me, and i am also baptized in water. For me, it was a confirmation with witnesses that i would follow Jesus and not a society with certain injunctions. We all know what Jesus says about commandments. Now that we are free from them.

    So follow your heart dear sister and do it quickly. For as soon as you confess that you want this. Resistance and persecution will also come. That's why I know this is important. Upon my confession that I wanted to be baptized, I got bilateral pneumonia and saw the disease right outside my bed. i did not want it, i must say.

    If they do not have a baptismal font in your church. So with the Pentecostals i know they have there. So ask if they should not have baptisms there soon. Do not think they require you to become a member there. If they do contact another church.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus name,

    Know that all of you will be saved after this. We have the promice


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