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  • Jerry on 2 Esdras 1 - 1 year ago
    who is Esau today or what People is from the blood line of Esau
  • GiGi - In Reply on 2 Esdras 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello Jerry, I was researching your questions last night. Esau and his descendants settled among the Horite people at in the mountains of Seir, southeast of the Dead Seir. They eventually intermingled with the Horite people and Ishmaelites, and perhaps the Midianites. They lived along the trade routes both East to West and North to South. They came in contact with many peoples from many lands. So, they most likely intermixed among many different ethnicities. Some sites say Esau's descendants are among the Jordanians, Syrians, and Kurds. But others say the descendants are among the Turks, Iranians, and Iraqis. I don't think that Esau's descendants, like Ishmael's remained intact as an ethnic group.
  • Jacob and Esau - In Reply on 2 Esdras 1 - 1 year ago
    Genesis 25-27: Tells the story of Esau and Jacob. Jacob and Rebekah worked together to cheat Esau out of his birthright as elder son. Esau made it easy because he'd rather have a bowl of stew than his birthright. He only fought for it when he saw it given to Jacob.

    It seems wrong but Esau had no regard for those things until he realized what He had done. It says God HATED Esau for the treachery. This doesn't sanction cheating and treachery. It teaches that when God gives you a blessing, don't throw it away on something temporal.

    Esau left Jewish culture and married into other culture an religion. However, to this very day, Esau is still trying to get his blessing away from Jacob. (God changed Jacobs name to Israel.

    The wars in the Mid-East today, are still about the Covenants God made with Abraham and descendant of Abraham's wife SARAH.

    I followed Esaus descendants to the eastern lands of Israel: a very difficult study. Google Esau's Geneology.

    Study it we should. The last wars will still be brother against brother.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Esdras 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Jerry.

    Take a look here at Obadiah 13-9.

    The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

    Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

    If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?

    How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

    All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.

    Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

    For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

    I believe they have mixed in with other tribes. They're no longer a people.

    Read all of Obadiah, only one chapter.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.

    God bless.
  • SINRPAUL - In Reply on 2 Esdras 1 - 1 year ago
    Palastine



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