Bible Discussion Thread

  • Barnabas Chiyeya
    Brothers and sisters in the Lord, please help :

    is there anywhere in the four (4) Bible gospels (MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN) where it is written that someone or some people wanted to or were trying or planning or intending to or were threatening to Kill the twelve (12) disciples of Jesus Christ? is there such a verse just within the four (4) Bible gospels (MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN)? Please, please, help. Thank you.
  • Austin - in Reply
    Well , Peter was threatened when he was with Jesus Christ , before the death' of Jesus in the cross ,

    John 18:15-27

    King James Version

    17Then saith the damsel that kept the door unto Peter, Art not thou also one of this man's disciples? He saith, I am not.

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  • Marke - in Reply
    I am not aware of any record of such a conspiracy to commit the murder of the 12 disciples, but there is evidence the wicked disciples of the devil do hate and are willing to murder God's people.

    John 12:9-11

    King James Version

    9 Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might see Lazarus also, whom he had raised from the dead.

    10 But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;

    11 Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus.
  • Barnabas Chiyeya - in Reply
    Thank you very much for your help,I really, really appreciate your time, and and i am getting more and more light from your explanations, a great blessing to me.Now I was just kindly asking for a favor from you that you put it in a more simpler way or a more simpler language so that i can clearly get the point, i mean when you said (i am not aware of any record........... to commit the murder of the disciples) if you could put this in more simpler words for me to get the clear point, you will have saved me from hell, i once more thank you for your help and understanding and am really sorry for this incovinience am causing to you, Thank you, God bless you.
  • Marke - in Reply
    If I say I have seen no evidence that Bill Clinton murdered Jeffrey Epstein, that does not mean he did not do it, just that I have no evidence that he did. When I say I don't know of any evidence of a conspiracy among 1st-century acquaintants of the 12 disciples to murder the disciples that means I do not know of any such evidence but that does not mean such evidence does not exist.
  • Barnabas Chiyeya - in Reply
    Ok, So the point here is that, there could have been people who were planning or trying to Kill the twelve (12) disciples of Jesus in the four Bible gospels, but we do not have any evidence documented in MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE and JOHN to prove the conspiracy, am i correct ?
  • Marke - in Reply
    Yes, that is what I believe.
  • Barnabas Chiyeya - in Reply
    Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate, now I just wanted to be clear somewhere: Luke 12:4-5 (fear not them that Kill the body after that they have nothing more to do but fear him who after killing has power to cast into hell.....) Doesn't this verse confirm that there was someone or some people who were planning to Kill the twelve (12) disciples of Jesus Christ? May i know your understanding of this verse, thanks again once more for your help, God bless you.
  • Marke - in Reply
    The Lord told all Christians that the devil will inspire unsaved sinners to hate them and want to kill them. As far as we know 10 of the disciples were martyred, Judas committed suicide, and John lived even though he was reportedly boiled in oil. Thousands of Christians have been murdered by sinners under the devil's influence over the centuries.

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