Bible Discussion Thread

  • Roseanna M Garland
    Re: Water baptism

    What happens to people who believe in God and don't go to church?

    What happens to those who believe in God and don't get baptized?

    Can a believer baptize a baby by sprinkling without having a pastor do it, because the baby's family don't go to church, but they believe in God and Jesus?

    So are people who don't get baptized by immersion by a pastor in church, are they not saved?
  • Sanaytrah - in Reply
    God gives choices to those who want to come to church we can't make them. What they do is between them and God if they don't come. People can also fellowship at home or at church. But I chose to fellowship at church because I want to learn more from my brother's and sister, and I want them to teach me the bible. That's why I come and to learn more about others and to praise the Lord. I take piano lessons from a girl that goes to my church. I enjoy it because I get to learn more about her and her family and more about piano.
  • Giannis - in Reply
    Dear Roseanna

    According to my opinion:

    1) If you are not in communion with God's children then you will probably have communion with unbelievers. That means that you are at a risk to drift towards world's way which is sinful. If you are an old person and can't go to church then there are other ways like tv, radio, internet that you can use to be with fellow christians.

    2) Two conditions are necessary for salvation.

    a. New Birth

    b. Baptized in water.

    3) Barbie's baptism is not valid. New Birth has to be done by God's Word. A baby can not understand, or believe, or repent. 1 Peter 1:23 "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever"

    4) God has placed an hierarchy in the Church. It is not for everybody to do everything. It has to be a pastor or an elder of the church. Now if a baby dies before being baptized then it certainly goes to Heaven.

  • Marke - in Reply
    Christians will be judged on their obedience to Christ. If Jesus is leading a person to go to church then he should go to church. If Jesus is leading a person to not go to church then that person should not go to church. Every sinner and every saint will be judged according to the word of God and the person's obedience or disobedience to the word of God. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind knowing that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
  • Roseanna M Garland - in Reply

    I like your comment.

    When God helped me stop drinking back in '81, I was then baptized by the sprinkling of water in our Lutheran church.

    I was raised by a Baptist mom and dad occasionally attended service.

    I married a man who was raised by a Lutheran family. When we were young marrieds, we had discussions about baptizing our two children. I don't know what made me change my mind, but I agreed to having our nearly 3-year-old son and our (I'm guessing) 6-month-old daughter be baptized in the Lutheran church.

    When our daughter grew up and had a baby girl, she had our granddaughter baptized in the Presbyterian church by sprinkling of water when she was about 3 - 6 months old.

    My granddaughter was confirmed in the Lutheran church when she was a teen. She went to vacation Bible school at the Presbyterian church with her cousins when they were pre-teens.

    My granddaughter is now 23 and married to a Marine who is a few months older than she is. He was raised by a Baptist mom. Even though they both believe in God, neither one of them are church-goers. They have a 3-year-old daughter and a 1-year-old son.

    Marke, I just worry about my great-grandkids being baptized some day, when I know that their parents don't go to church. My granddaughter did try to go thru her older cousin to see if the Lutheran pastor would baptize their first baby. The pastor was more than willing to have my granddaughter (and her husband) come see her; but my granddaughter didn't go thru with it. I don't know why. You see, my granddaughter and her husband live at Camp Pendleton, CA. They were only here for 2 weeks in Wis with their baby girl in 2019. They haven't been back to Wis since. Maybe my granddaughter felt like she would have to join the church.

    I don't want to stick my nose in their business, so I don't say anything. All I've been doing is praying.

    After our kids were baptized, it was THEN that my husband said his mom had been praying all along.
  • Marke - in Reply
    I grieve over the heartaches caused by sin and indifference, in my own life as well as in the lives of others, because I know sin always brings grief and sorrow. I will pray for your family. I know the Lord wants them to draw near to Him and to seek His help and guidance for everyone's good, especially their own. Thanks for sharing.
  • Jesse - in Reply

    That is a perfect response, Amen!
  • Mishael - in Reply
    Also, a friend can baptise you in a tub, a swimming pool or a shallow River. God sees everything. Say

    "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." Then say, by faith I receive the Holy Spirit as my Teacher, my Comforter, and my Corrector.

    God my Father bless this holy child and raise up a fine Proverbs 31 woman. Amen.
  • Coping With Injustice - in Reply
    I'm elderly. Some are not able to go to church physically, but they see church on tv or they listen to the ones on FM or AM radio stations; 24 hrs a day.

    If you have a cell phone, you can go on YouTube and type in Greg Laurie or John Hagee; even Billy Graham! Many of his videos are on YouTube. :)

    God knows exactly where your heart is, so keep growing as His dear child. He will make a way for you. If transportation is the problem, you can call and see if churches in your area have a bus ministry who will come pick you up and take you home.

    Book of John

    16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

    Other scriptures:

    Philippians 2:5-11

    John 15:16 and 18

    1 John 3:13

    We are always here. Come whenever you need prayer or answers. I love the spirit of your heart.

    One godly woman on her knees praying can break the chains of the evil one. Don't give up.


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