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  • Roman on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 10

    Is that you Elijah?

    vs 1 The angel with his right foot on the sea, and left foot on the earth is Jesus (mirroring the 2 beasts inRevelation 13, rising from sea & earth).

    Revelation 10:5-6And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 Andswareby him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

    vs 5-6 are paradoxical because Jesus says all creation is from God, where Christian's are sworn to saying that Jesus created all. The dichotomy. John 10:30

    vs 7 We are reminded that God has plans to end this age at the 7th trumpet.

    vs 8 Jesus gives the prophet the little book, the Word of God (Bible) to eat.

    vs 9-10 Since it's sweet in his mouth, then bitter in his belly, it must be before the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, and the terrible judgment to come.

    Revelation 10:11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

    vs 11 This is a GREATEST prophet, Mat 11:11, whom we were promised. This introduces Elijah's ministry, before the day of the Lord. Elijah is to preach the word of God, salvation, on the backdrop of the day of the Lord, Malachi 4:5
  • Danielle Abraham - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Christians are not sworn to believe that Jesus created everything in earth God is the creator as it is written in the Bible and in the beginning in Genesis chapter 1. Jesus died for us to save us Jesus is the only way to Heaven the Great City of the New Jeruselum. Jesus is our savior. He was also created by God and put on the earth to teach us and show us the way to the truth and love for God because man does not know how to accomplish this one thing on his own. We all need to pray for understanding and the truth because trying to figure this thing out with your own thoughts is not of God's way. We pray for discernment to know right and wrong, truth and lies. have a blessed day.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Hi Danielle, have you read John 1:1-3? Because what you stated seems contradictory to this.

    You wrote: "He was also created by God"

    KJV says in John 1:1 "Word was God" and John 1:14-15 reveals that the Word is Jesus, because He's exactly the one who came in the flesh that John the baptist bore witness to, which eliminates any possible confusion with anyone else. This absolutely confirms with 100% certainty and no possible misunderstanding that the Word is Jesus, and thus, Jesus is God.

    John 1:2. God didn't create Himself. Jesus didn't create Himself. God the Father didn't create Jesus. Jesus was already there from the beginning and he made all things John 1:3.

    You said to pray for right and wrong, truth and lies, and I agree! I believe these verses in John is the truth and I believe anything said contradictory to God's Word is false. I pray that anyone reading this discussion will know the truth, that the truth of God's Word is made obvious in the hearts of those in this forum.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Thank you, Adam, for bringing this to the attention of readers. This error seems to come up again and again and, like you, I don't think we should not speak up when someone denies either the divinity or humanity of Jesus.
  • Marke - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Elijah is likely one of the two witnesses spoken of in Revelation 11, and Enoch is likely the other. Enoch and Elijah were the only two men who disappeared from the earth without dying in the OT, only to reappear on earth during the tribulation and die there.

    Rev 11

    3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Marke,

    The two witnesses are the 144,000 sealed saints from both houses of Israel.

    I challenge you to prove that they are not one and the same.

    On the other hand, Malachi 4:5 is one person, in the order of Elijah, with a separate mission from the saints.
  • Marke - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    I am not following you. Two and 144,000 are not the same numbers.
  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 10 - 1 year ago
    Marke,

    The secret to knowing who the saints are is as easy as identifying who the two olive trees, and the two lampstands are. The two prophets/witnesses are described as "the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks that stand before the God of the earth". Olive trees and candlesticks have always been used to describe the house of Israel and the house of Judah. These are the 144,000 from the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, sealed from death for 42 months, at the 6th trumpet. Together, they are the whole house of Israel, witnesses to antichrists' exploits between the 6th & 7th trumpets.



    Zechariah 4:14

    Jeremiah 11:16

    Psalm 52:8



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