Bible Discussion Thread

  • Julian Pechacek on Philippians 3
    I agree with Paul's low opinion of dogs. Dogs are filthy and do not belong in a Christian home. It is despicable that so many people live with dogs in their house, some even sleep with dogs in their bed. He despised those who burdened the Church with a false Gospel. A dog is a false, poor substitute for a human companion. It requires food and care and returns no spiritual value. It is just a distraction from our work to love each other. It is difficult to visit with my neighbors who care for dogs, it actually isolates them from real human companionship. Labeling the false teachers as dogs was appropriate in Paul's day.

    Today, in the modern, apostate Church, people live with dogs and false teachers, and view it as normal.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Julian, As some have pointed out, dogs are God's creatures and were created as being good. Dogs are one of many animals God has allowed us to domesticate. Not all animals can be. So, I think God purposed this to be so. Mankind continues to domesticate new species of animals. Some people have iguanas for pets and they can be tamed and leash trained. Some people have emus or ostriches for pets or raise them for food. Some people have birds like parrots for pets. We have domesticated rabbits (an unclean animal in OT), guinea pigs, hamsters, rats, ferrets, llamas, elephants, and horses. All of these are God's creatures and were created being good by God.

    So, if you do not like dogs or any other animal, that is your prerogative, but to God, every creature He created was created good before Him.

    God Bless You, Julian
  • GiGi - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Dear Julian, I myself am not much of a dog person and have never had a dog for a pet. I have had cats, which I prefer. But domesticated dogs are pets or helpers on farms or for security or police enforcement purposes. They serve man in many ways.

    In biblical times, they were not domesticated like today. They were not welcome into homes and ran around in packs scavenging and being brutal to other creatures and humans.) But now, thousands of years later, dogs have been breed for many purposes for mankind. They are loyal and good companions to many. I do not like it when dogs jump up on me, growl at me, run at me, etc. but I don't mind well behaved dogs. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion about dogs. i am just not sure that the Bible expressly forbids having dogs as pets. Maybe you know of a Scripture that speaks to this.
  • Kay - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Julian, I admit that we weak humans can go overboard in an undue affection for dogs. I myself have to endeavor, by God's grace, to keep myself from being too mushy over them. :)

    First - let us remember the Syro-Phonecian woman who asked Jesus to cast the devil out of her daughter. Jesus at first denied her request, saying that He was come to first seek the lost sheep of israel. She responded, "even the puppies get the crumbs that fall from their Master's table." Jesus did not upbraid her, saying something like, "Puppies shouldn't be in the house in the first place!!" :)

    It's true that some 'dogs' of the wild type are sly, cruel and savage. Those would be more of what would describe evil people!

    Dogs in homes are domestic animals. This is a sad commentary in our day that people don't understand this. They neglect their dogs, or dump them on the street, thinking they can forage for themselves! That is absolutely false! Domestic canines cannot survive well on their own. They become sick, they become prey for animals; they become prey for evil people.

    Like other domestic animals, they are part of the class of creatures that we are to be stewards of. I have seen countless cases of dogs being rescued who have been so neglected; their fur was left unwashed and uncut - and the poor creatures literally become encrusted with feces, urine, and parasites. I remember one case of a little dog whose matted fur entangled the front paw so bad that it cut off circulation and the limb had to be amputated. Is this the way the Great and Good Creator would want His creatures taken care of? I can't believe that!

    I have a son who has been sick for 20 years, pretty much home bound, unable to get out to socialize and make friends. His pets add brightness and laughter and companionship to his painful days. They also serve as watch dogs and caregivers! One day my son fell - and it was his pup that alerted me to it! I thank God for these little helpers!

    God bless!
  • Grae - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Everything God created is awesome ! Dogs r highly intelligent , affectionate creatures . They r used by us as helpers in so many ways , guide dogs for blind people , police dogs , detector dogs for drugs and other chemicals , they can even detect a dead and buried body . Nothing that God created isn't beautiful .
  • TS - in Reply on Philippians 3
    You may have heard, and can see for yourself, that dog spelled backwards is god. It's unfortunate that you have such disdain for one of God's creatures that demonstrates unconditional love and provides comfort to those who need it and seek it. Saying that dogs are a distraction who offer no value may be true for you but is not universally accepted. Your neighbors may prefer the company of their dogs since they are loyal to them and will not abandon them simply because they do not like others with whom they spend their time (which seems to describe your attitude). It is kind of you to reach out to your neighbors in a caring and supportive way. However, there are countless people who do not have humans who regularly engage with them on a personal level and the companionship offered by a pet is a meaningful relationship which provides them with purpose and love.
  • Julian - in Reply on Philippians 3
    1John1:3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

    Christians forsake fellowship with each other for companionship with dogs, cats, golf, sports, bars, dining out, children, grandchildren, etc. Justify yourself all you want, but it is time to be convicted by the truth. We prefer the comfort and safety of a dog companion, to a meaningful Christ-like engagement with our fellow believers.

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