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  • Jamie nichols on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Why do preachers preach that the church will be gone during tribulation when the bible does not say that.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    1 Corintihans 13
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hey Jamie,

    My understanding is, this is the deception of deceptions and will cause the great falling away, 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Part of this deception is that the great tribulation and the wrath of God are taught as being the same thing. We must understand the wrath of God comes after the second coming of Jesus not before. Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27.

    It developed in the 17th Century, and it quickly led to an understanding that the rapture of the church would be an event separate from and before the second coming of Christ. It was made popular by John Darby, and he is thought by many to be the originator but not. C.I. Scofield, with the study bible with footnotes, helped promote this doctrine of man. It started as pre-tribulation and still mostly believed in.

    We as humans sometimes look for the easy way out, and many preachers oblige to fill the money plate that makes merchandise of people, 2 Peter 2:3. Scripture does not say we will be spared tribulation it says the opposite, Acts 14:22 John 16:33. It is debated that although all Christians go through some tribulation, there is yet a great tribulation to come those true believers will not have to undergo. So, who are these, Revelation 7:13-14 Revelation 20:4

    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    The mark and saving our physical life is the temptation, that so many don't believe they will be here to face, that is the great deception. Keep from does not mean we will be spared from being killed it means to spiritually guard (watch), keep intact, Hebrews 3:6. The believers in Jesus in the past were not spared being beheaded, burnt on a stake, fed to the lions, why should we.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Rev 11: 15 The KiNGDOMS of this WORLD have become the Kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ..And he shall reign for ever and ever...After all Jesus says the Kingdom of God is gona be with in you...And king David said he saw ALL the world at rest and full of his Glory... Psalms 72 And Isaiah 14 the world is full of his Glory
  • Roman - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Because they are wrong, and have been wrong for centuries. The Lord has kept them in the dark because they preach their opinion over what was written.

    There is nothing worse that a foolish preacher. If you witness this, challenge it, and stop it before it grows.
  • Suze - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Yes ! They want smooth words instead of the Truth . For me it's just laziness , if you want to know the Truth , I mean really know it in capital letters , then you must read it for yourself . God's plan of salvation for us in Christ is actually quite simple , the rest is meat and drink to our hungry souls as we wait for the Kingdom , when I read the whole Bible it's strengthens me so much to see how God is in charge . He leaves nothing to chance and He knows each and everyone of us intimately , we don't need to be afraid in these dark times , as Jesus said , even the very hairs on each of our heads is numbered .The more we read the closer we feel to Him and our hearts are strengthened and our faith flourishes within us so that we can withstand anything this world throws at us , even our own deaths if we have to . Be not soon shaken ! Christ is coming ! For you !
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Possibly out of tradition.

    In these several years of difficulty personally longer & even for " traditional American churches" it has given many of us opportunity to look deeper into scripture, understanding & " tradition " within the fellowships & to ask why, are they doing this, & that. I hope, pray & believe through these trials a better, more biblical, believing Church will come forth.

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