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  • Alex N - 2 years ago
    Hi Bro. Chris...GM... Plz lemme give ya my take on the lineage of Christ Jesus...He cd not come thru David or anymans lineage simply b/c all men carry the stain and the spot of Adam....It was only Mary that was of the tribe of Judah Davids lineage...But what ya gotta understand is the bible just uses David as symbolic language for Christ...As Peter tells us in Acts 2 it was not David's whos soul was left in hell and wd not see corruption...It was Jesus that was not left in hell etc...When the bible speaks of a son wd come out of David's loins it was prophetic that a son wd come outa of Christ loins his seed etc which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...As Matthew 22 : 41 says its the lords righteounsess...Impling a heavenly being the H.G. that is gonna rule all nations the manchild which is that Child that is gonna come outta of Christ loins...the H.G...Jesus's Seed the words of that New Covenant.

    ......Its not speaking of Davids seed...But its just uses King David as symbolic language for Christ our King...Thats y Jesus is saying if David calls him Lord how can he be his son...Jesus was not of this world...thus he cd not be of Davids lineage...The bible just uses David as symbolic language for Christ Jesus as ACTS 2 : 27 tells us But Peter tells us it was just prophetic of Christ...Thats y many ppl thought that Christ was of Davids lineage...But it was only Mary that was of Davids lineage not the Christ...It was a great mystery thats y Jesus said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...That Great king that comes outta of Christ loins...His loins, His breath which was his words his seeds etc...The lord our righteousness is the H.G...As MATT.22 : 41 tells us...No natural man cd ever be our righteousness.....

    ....Whats the meaning of all this..Its just means this Father and Son Relationship between David and Solomon is just Prophetic of a father and son relationship between Christ and the H.G.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Alex N I think i start and understand what you mean but experienced the first time you said this like Donna here now. But how we experience the Holy Spirit has no real significance for the Hearer of His Voice. I also know that the Spirit has and had great Power.

    We constantly see it through the Bible. And i'm so happy for all the pictures we get, and who u have. So this became a new one dear friend Love you in Christ, I will look at it with open eyes.

    Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This War scares me more then any other War...Since Russia has Nuclear Weapons.... Daniel 12 : 1..Talks about a time coming that is gonna be more Horrible then any other time since there was a Nation....A time of Trouble unlike ever seen before....Lord have mercy on US. In Jesus name.
  • Roman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex N,

    I made the Ezekiel 38 case more concise; clearer.

    Ezekiel 38:9 is the first land covered by a cloud (US) vs 8 "is gathered out of many people", and

    Ezekiel 38:16 is the other land covered by a cloud (Israel) vs 15 "all of them riding horses".
  • Roman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex,

    Daniel 12:1 is talking about the day of the Lord, the 6th trumpet strike, the fall of Babylon, the abomination of desolation, the great tribulation. The world will turn into a curse.

    Ezekiel 38 talks of two clouds to cover the land. Ezekiel 21:19-20 talks about attacking 2 nations from one land. These two lands represent America and Israel, both houses of Israel, Gods people.

    Ezekiel 21 has several depictions of Israel, "my people" vs 12 as being the subject of the slaughter.

    The attack is against America, Israel and every nation allied with America. Isaiah 24:20 states the earth will be hit so hard that it will be knocked of its axis, the sun and moon will refuse to shine 1/3rd the day as a result.

    Who will stop Russia besides nobody, Rev 13:3; they have God on their side. Isaiah 13:1-6, they come from a far country, "even the Lord with them". Joel 2:11, the Lord uttered His voice before "His army". God is preparing the sixth trumpet army (Russia) to annihilate the fifth trumpet army (US) to dust, Revelation 9.

    Nothing like reading about it in real time, just as the little horn Daniel 7:8 starts to make his move.

    Day of the Lord: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Jeremiah 50 & 51, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18 & Luke 21:20-24 (Israel's fall in same hour).

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  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Donna yes....Its Christ that sows that good seed in our hearts,Thats y he has to KNOW US Thus its Christ that is the FATHER of the H.G...Remember Isaiah refer to Jesus as Everlasting Father...Thus His Children have to be Spirits the H.G.PLURAL as the stars of heaven...ok lemme go...The Children of PROMISE HAVE TO BE AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN...And our bodies are their temples
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 2 years ago
    1 John 4:1-4

    1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

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  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Many times i have read Isaiah 11 : 1 Kjv...There shall come a Rod outta of the stem of Jesse which was David the son and a Branch shall grow outta of his roots...Outta of Davids roots ...Solomon the Granson...But all this is just prophetic that a rod is gonna come outta of God the Father which is Christ Jesus the Son and a branch is gonna come outa of Christ Jesus the son. Which is the H.G the Child of PROMISE ,AS Solomon was Jesse's Granson...So the H.G. is God the fathers Granson being Christ Jesus is his Father....Isaiah is just using these 3 men as symbolic language for a kingdom coming the last day...When he sets his hand a 2 nd time to recover his ppl...Its the Heavenly trinity a type of Davids kingdom which was Father son and granson...Jesse David and Solomon. ..As God wd only let Solomon the Granson build the great temple...Thus God will ony let the H.G. build the temple in our hearts..As our bodies are the only temple of the H.G....Thats y Jesus is saying a Greater then Solomon is here.

    As the H.G .will build a greater temple then Solomon...In our hearts...Thats y David said beautiful for Situation...There is no more beautiful Place (Situation) for the Kingdom then in our hearts....ok lemme run...making a Garden
  • Donna - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Solet me see if I understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that Christ had a son come from his loins and that son is the Holy Spirit?

    So your saying The Holy Ghost is the Son of Jesus Christ?

    Did I understand you correctly?
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Donna yes....Its Christ that sows that good seed in our hearts,Thats y he has to KNOW US Thus its Christ that is the FATHER of the H.G...Remember Isaiah refer to Jesus as Everlasting Father...Thus His Children have to be Spirits the H.G.PLURAL as the stars of heaven...ok lemme go...The Children of PROMISE HAVE TO BE AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN...And our bodies are their temples
  • Aaron - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex N,

    The Holy Spirit is the gift of God, our heavenly Father gave us so we could understand what's written. Everlasting Father is a title for Jesus. The scriptures bare this out unless I am mistaken.

    Below, it appears as though God gave the Holy Spirit to Jesus and Jesus gave it to us. God's the boss, all spirits go back to God, Ecclesiastes 12:7

    Acts 2:33

    33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
  • Mishael - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Have you ever studied Jesus's Geneology from Genesis to Luke 1 and Matthew 1 ??

    There are charts on Google of Mary's line; as is Joseph's: Jesus's earthly dad was a son of David's lineage.

    And yes I know Jesus did not have Joseph's blood. Jesus's blood came by the Holy Spirit over shadowing Mary. She consented.

    God kept track of Jesus's ancestors carefully. Before and after the flood. Each individual was chosen by God.



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