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  • Richard H Priday on Isaiah 28 - 2 years ago
    The descendants of Ephraim were said to be related to a son of Joseph with Asenath who was given to him by Pharaoh. Apparently, Manasseh was one of the descendants; and they were involved more with the Northern Kingdom and later disbanded. In any event; wherever the 12 tribes are in Israel today; the final treaty with "death and hell" (no doubt the Daniel 9:27 treaty)

    (v.18) will be broken. Surely the cornerstone in verse 16 when ignored will bring Antichrist; and Christ Himself warned that they would accept one with his own name ( John 5:43). Their attempt to bring about a king; no doubt of Messianic Davidic decent will be brought to fruition with the bad fruit of this imposter. It is hard to say if the general drunken state will bring about the spiritual seduction that is implied here with the false prophets in verse 7 directly resulting in this deception; or if there is a general lack of discernment forseeing this event.

    Verses 18 through 20 show the destruction coming; and the rest of the verses could have harvests that have a hidden meaning as to the firstfruits; then Christ at His coming comparing the rapture and later resurrection(s) to harvests-this is seen perhaps best with the barley harvest being first; and a wheat harvest (Tribulum) being a different process thrrough the fire as it were to extract the good grain. Other verses show the grape harvest; the trodding down as in Armageddon; as the final one; corresponding with bowl judgments in some respect.
  • Roman - In Reply on Isaiah 28 - 2 years ago
    Richard,

    Joseph was the father of Manasseh and Ephraim, and both were given a double portion of land. They are the birthright people. Jacob blessed the younger twin, Ephraim, to become strong first. The isles of the sea, England, came first, followed by America. In 605 BC, Nebuchadnezzar freed the house of Israel from Assyrian slavery. Rather than go home to Israel, they traveled north and west to the isles (UK) to settle on the Lord's rock, England. These lead houses of Israel would soon fulfill their blessings as a great nation (US) and a nation and a company of nations (UK)( Genesis 48). In the process, they would lose their Israelite identities. Albeit, the crown and diadem would never depart Judah.

    The covenant ( Daniel 9:27) is confirmed for a week, 7 years. Jesus received the first half of the week (42 months) and Messiah was cut off; in the end times, anti-christ receives the second half of the week, 42 months, and is cut off. The prophesy spans 2,000 years.



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