Bible Discussion Thread

  • Louis Martin Jr
    Can we be perfect in this world, in this earthly body or should we just try to work towards perfection in serving GOD.
  • S Spencer. - in Reply
    Hi Louis.

    I just noticed I sent my earlier reply incomplete.

    My answer would be no to go along with what I already said. We are hidden in Christ and presented perfect by the blood of Christ and his righteousness is imputed unto us. But our walk in these bodies will never be perfect but the work by the spirit will lead us in that direction as we grow.

    Our sins are within, even in our thoughts. 1 Corinthians 4:5. Hebrews 4:12.

    God bless.
  • Gigi - in Reply
    Hi Louis

    Wesley taught that a Christian can be totally sanctified in this life and therefore be perfect and not sin anymore.

    This teaching gave birth to the "holiness" movement in the 1800's. You find this teaching in many Pentacostal type churches,

    I believe that, while the Holy Spirit continually works sanctification in us, as long as we possess the sinful nature(which we do in this life) we will sin and our natural self is still corrupted by sin until we die. So, therefore, we will not be perfected in this life in being sinless or incorruptible.

    Paul exhorts believers again and again to walk by the Spirit, live by the Spirit, and not to resist the Spirit so that we will not give in to the sinful nature in us. He knew that we would be battling against the sinful nature until we die.

    But when we are ressurrected, our new bodies will be free of the curse of sin and our souls will be no longer have a sinful nature. We will be incorruptible by sin in eternal life and will no longer be tempted by sin. We will become sinless like the holy angels, finally receiving the fullness of our salvation.
  • Glenn - in Reply
    Nobody's perfect,.. pray , repent , an ask of God for knowledge,..

  • _______ - in Reply
    You see, you can't be perfect phiscally but you can spiritually. You should always be working towards God, and that is how you be spritually perfect
  • S Spencer. - in Reply
    Hi Louis.

    For anyone to come in the presence of God he has to be perfect, Perhaps this is why no one has come in the presence of God and lived. That is what Christ came to through the work on the cross. Hebrews 10:12-17.

    It is the spirit that work in you after conversion. Philippians 2:13. Philippians 1:6.

    We are to be in agreement with the spirit and bare the fruit produced by the vine. John 15:1-8.

    Anything that is done in the flesh and not through the influence of the spirit is not accepted, Your works will be tried by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-17.

    That which is done in your own strength lacks the ability and authenticity to please God, but the spirit gives life to this fleshly nature captured in these sinful bodies. Romans 8:5-14.

    It is important for a Christian to not attempt to ad to the finish work on the cross. ( We should acknowledge the works we do adds nothing to your salvation, that's been taken care of you can't loose it.)

    In our walk we will stumble: 1 John 2:1. 1 John 1:7-10. Let's not loose sight of Philippians 1:6.

    God bless.

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