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  • Ellen Rebecca - 2 years ago
    MUSLIMS BELIEVE JESUS IS MESSIAH TOO!

    Muslims, Christians and Jews alike serve the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    Jews are under Isaac, Muslims are under Ishmael and Christians are under Jesus.

    As it is written in the Hebrew Tanakh (Torah & writings of the prophets/Old Testament), Abraham had two sons; one of a bondwoman Hagar unto Ishmael and Isaac born of a free woman Sarah the bloodline unto the descendants of Abraham ( Genesis 21:12). God called as this bloodline for the Messiah but God did not forget Abraham's first son Ishmael. God Honors Ishmael and promised Abraham he will make Ishmael a great nation ( Genesis 21:13) which is long before God promised Moses to make the Jews a great nation ( Exodus 32:10).

    When the Lord first made a covenant with Abraham ( Genesis 17) God said it will be an everlasting covenant with he that is born of the house and he that is bought with money as servant of the house ( Genesis 17:13) and the covenant is the circumcised flesh. All of Abrahams house was circumcised in Genesis 17. Isaac who the covenant unto the elect of God is through wasnt born yet and it was Ishmael who was circumcized.

    There is only one God, the God of Abraham. Ishmael grew up with God And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer ( Genesis 21:20). Ismael had 12 princes ( Genesis 25:16) which are the bloodline of Arab (Muslim) tribes today.

    The blood lineage of Prophet Muhammad directly descends from the tribe of Ishmael's second son Kedar ( Genesis 25:12-17). God told Abraham that Ishmael Shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ( Genesis 16:12).

    ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED IN ABRAHAM ( Genesis 22:18)!

    Abraham's circumzied himself and his son Ishmael ( Genesis 17:26) and all the males of his house who were born into house or were bought as servants and circumcised them ( Genesis 17:23) grafting them all into the promise also!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Ellen.

    The flesh relationship that one would have with Abraham profit you nothing in regards to being a joint heirs of the promise.

    We are heirs of the promise by faith!

    Galatians 4:28-31. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

    Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

    So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

    Abraham was given

    Romans 4:8-11. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

    Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

    How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

    THE NATURAL BIRTH DOESN'T COMMEND ONE TO GOD.

    Galatians 3:6-9. Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

    Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

    And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

    So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Galatians 3:16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    Neither Muslims or Jews accept this narrow way! John 14:6.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, Ellen,

    Abraham also ad 6 sons with Keturah (a slave he took for a wife after Sara died). These sons were circumcised. The populated areas Midian and Saudi Arabia. My understanding is that Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet, but not as the Messiah. They are waiting for the Messiah to still come. While it is true that Jews, Muslims, and Christians all associate their faith with the God of Abraham, Muslims and Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, nor do they accept that He is both God and man in one Person, so they do not worship Him as Christians do. Also, Muslims and Jews do not believe that one is saved by faith in Jesus. They teach that they are saved by works of obedience to the laws and statutes of their faith.

    Also, Muhammed was a moon god worshipper before he was visited by and angel to establish Islam. I believe tis angel was a fallen one and helped Muhammed set up a religion that is false and has deceived millions and millions over the decades. I have not read a source that Muhammed was descended from one of Ishmael's sons. I will need to research that now that you mentioned it. Thank you for your post. I think it is important for us to understand more about islam since it's influence is expanding in our present generation.



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