The entire Nation of Israel did I mean that the whole beginning of Israel and why they are God's chosen people. Have you read the Bible? sure you can read about how travelers could join Israel but they must follow the law and customs of Israel, hey has no one told you as a believer that you need to read the Bible and like a 1000 times. What if i was a doctor and I ask you hey does blood flow thru our veins, see what I'm saying. As a christian you are called to be a witness of Jesus so how if you don't know His word. 2corinthians 13:12 Study to show thyself approved you can go read the rest of it.
Colossians 4:6
"Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."
Romans 15:4
"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."
2Timothy3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
My favorite scriptures are: And the word became flesh and dwelt among us and Low, i come in a volume of a book it is written of me. Read a KJV bible it's Jesus get to know Jesus.
Thanks for your response to my thoughts on Biblical migration
What drew my attention to the idea of migration was based on the following observations and searches of Scripture
If you do a word search on
1)scatter..you'll find what I found..that the word was always associated with " were scattered"which said to me that they didn't choose to scatter, but were scattered by the Father..which fits in with the agricultural view there, that seeds don't scatter themselves.they need the farmer to toss them where he wants the seed to go
2)." Immediately".you find that it came up in the account of Jesus and the other members of the boat crossing the Sea of Galilee.." immediately" they were at their destination ( the other side of the Sea shore)
3)the eunoch's encounter with Phillip, where the eunuch was baptised by Phillip.then Phillip was found shortly after at Azotus.a village some 20 miles away from the water site..both 1) and 2) above are examples of instant teleportation of people great distances in short periods of time
3).based on the above, how does the kangaroo get from Australia to the Ark of Jonah.there is no natural explanation for this event..as well as the translation back from the Ark to the native lands of all the creatures on board the Ark
And so I based my claims on what the Scripture said happened..and at the Tower of Babel.the builders said " Let us build a tower to reach into heaven, and make a name for ourselves, LEST WE BE SCATTERED"it seems they recognized and feared that they would be scattered if they did nothing ..?
I recognize that herds have migration routes in Africa.which require great time.not the same as " being scattered"
So that was the basis for my claims.hope the above helps you as it does me
Neil
PS..I have to check again it was Philip who encountered the eunoch?
In understood your question as to examples of people in the Bible migrating, which I gave examples.
As to the animals getting to the ark or to distant lands after the flood, there are theories, one of which is that in Genesis it says that God gathered the waters into one place and the dry land was exposed. So, this may mean that all of the land mass exposed was connected as one large continent. So,God most likely caused the animal pairs to migrate to the ark (which was at the geographical center of the land mass.
After the flood the land mass was most likely still one continent which made migration to all parts possible for both animals and humans.
As the earth recovered from the flood, tectonic plates may have begin to move and this reshaped the earth's surface more making the oceans deeper and mountains higher. Also the land mass may have broken apart and the land masses drifted apart. So, animals and people who migrated to the every part of the land surface would become more and more isolated from other animal groups and peoples as the continents became more distinct and the oceans and seas filled in the trenches that separated the masses. This theory makes sense to me. The Atlantic Ocean is still expanding a measurable amount each year. This causes the western and eastern hemispheres to become farther apart bit by bit. Some of the newest land formations (mountains, valleys, trenches ) are in the middle of the Atlantic.
I do not think that God translated people and animals like He did Philip in Acts. But it is a possibility. It is s theory just like the one I have presented because the Bible does not say that peoples and animals were scattered supernaturally nor that the continents were all still connected after the flood and then began to break apart.
I can see that you take the word scattered to mean that God supernaturally moved people and animals. I believe He guided the migrations but that people and animals migrated in a natural sense.
The Struggles Present Day between Isaac and Ishmael - In Reply - 2 years ago
Isaacs sons, Jacob and Esau.
Start reading around Genesis 27:30, 41
Esau= Genesis 28:9, 32:10 moves to Palestinian lands and marries into them; when Isaac forbid marriage to "unbelievers"
Isaac died= Genesis 35:29
Genesis 36+ story continues with Esau living with and ISHMAEL's descendants through Esau. You'll see through his geneology, princes, dukes, etc are named. Named through Ishmael ( Abrahams first with Hagar the slave).
It sorta explains modern day jealousy and hatred of the Jews, by the Palestinians.
All this is evidence of the struggle between Isaak and Abrahams son Ishmael whose mother was Hagar and not an air in the covenant for the land that God made with Abraham and the covenant heir to the Land of Israel.
Which is still fought over to this present day.
They could get saved and become grafted in through Jesus, this day and not be a part on the wrong side at Armageddon.
Tracing Esaus' ancestors is crazy hard. Like a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. It's present day Mideast. All of them against tiny Israel. Look at the maps.
People migrated southward into the river plains between the Tigris and Euphrates in just a few generations after Noah and family settled in the mountains of Aratat.
In Nimrod's day (Noah's great grandson) the Tower of Babel was built and God caused them people to speak in different languages and caused them to migrate in all directions.
They began to populate all continents from that time forward.
Herdsmen like Abraham were common and often lived somewhat nomadic as they traveled from pastureland to pastureland.
After Judah was taken to Babylon and Israel to Assyria those not taken stayed in and around Israel. Some migrated out if the area. Many Israelites and Jews stayed in Babylon and Assyria and did not return to the promised land. These them migrated north, south, east to settle in other areas.
At the time of Paul, Jew were settled all around the Mediterranean coastlands and the interior is Asia Minor.
After the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome in A.D. 70
Many Jews migrated out of the promised land.
There were migrations of tribal
Peoples to Africa and then continued to migrate south on that continent.
Peoples also migrate east to
India and China and the Far East. People migrated out of the Caucasus Mountains to Europe and Russia
People Migrated to north and South America.
So Gos saw to it that humans spread out upon the face of the earth, as was His will.
Besides Abram and Sarai?
Colossians 4:6
"Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."
Romans 15:4
"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."
2Timothy3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
My favorite scriptures are: And the word became flesh and dwelt among us and Low, i come in a volume of a book it is written of me. Read a KJV bible it's Jesus get to know Jesus.
Thanks for your response to my thoughts on Biblical migration
What drew my attention to the idea of migration was based on the following observations and searches of Scripture
If you do a word search on
1)scatter..you'll find what I found..that the word was always associated with " were scattered"which said to me that they didn't choose to scatter, but were scattered by the Father..which fits in with the agricultural view there, that seeds don't scatter themselves.they need the farmer to toss them where he wants the seed to go
2)." Immediately".you find that it came up in the account of Jesus and the other members of the boat crossing the Sea of Galilee.." immediately" they were at their destination ( the other side of the Sea shore)
3)the eunoch's encounter with Phillip, where the eunuch was baptised by Phillip.then Phillip was found shortly after at Azotus.a village some 20 miles away from the water site..both 1) and 2) above are examples of instant teleportation of people great distances in short periods of time
3).based on the above, how does the kangaroo get from Australia to the Ark of Jonah.there is no natural explanation for this event..as well as the translation back from the Ark to the native lands of all the creatures on board the Ark
And so I based my claims on what the Scripture said happened..and at the Tower of Babel.the builders said " Let us build a tower to reach into heaven, and make a name for ourselves, LEST WE BE SCATTERED"it seems they recognized and feared that they would be scattered if they did nothing ..?
I recognize that herds have migration routes in Africa.which require great time.not the same as " being scattered"
So that was the basis for my claims.hope the above helps you as it does me
Neil
PS..I have to check again it was Philip who encountered the eunoch?
In understood your question as to examples of people in the Bible migrating, which I gave examples.
As to the animals getting to the ark or to distant lands after the flood, there are theories, one of which is that in Genesis it says that God gathered the waters into one place and the dry land was exposed. So, this may mean that all of the land mass exposed was connected as one large continent. So,God most likely caused the animal pairs to migrate to the ark (which was at the geographical center of the land mass.
After the flood the land mass was most likely still one continent which made migration to all parts possible for both animals and humans.
As the earth recovered from the flood, tectonic plates may have begin to move and this reshaped the earth's surface more making the oceans deeper and mountains higher. Also the land mass may have broken apart and the land masses drifted apart. So, animals and people who migrated to the every part of the land surface would become more and more isolated from other animal groups and peoples as the continents became more distinct and the oceans and seas filled in the trenches that separated the masses. This theory makes sense to me. The Atlantic Ocean is still expanding a measurable amount each year. This causes the western and eastern hemispheres to become farther apart bit by bit. Some of the newest land formations (mountains, valleys, trenches ) are in the middle of the Atlantic.
I do not think that God translated people and animals like He did Philip in Acts. But it is a possibility. It is s theory just like the one I have presented because the Bible does not say that peoples and animals were scattered supernaturally nor that the continents were all still connected after the flood and then began to break apart.
I can see that you take the word scattered to mean that God supernaturally moved people and animals. I believe He guided the migrations but that people and animals migrated in a natural sense.
Start reading around Genesis 27:30, 41
Esau= Genesis 28:9, 32:10 moves to Palestinian lands and marries into them; when Isaac forbid marriage to "unbelievers"
Isaac died= Genesis 35:29
Genesis 36+ story continues with Esau living with and ISHMAEL's descendants through Esau. You'll see through his geneology, princes, dukes, etc are named. Named through Ishmael ( Abrahams first with Hagar the slave).
It sorta explains modern day jealousy and hatred of the Jews, by the Palestinians.
All this is evidence of the struggle between Isaak and Abrahams son Ishmael whose mother was Hagar and not an air in the covenant for the land that God made with Abraham and the covenant heir to the Land of Israel.
Which is still fought over to this present day.
They could get saved and become grafted in through Jesus, this day and not be a part on the wrong side at Armageddon.
Tracing Esaus' ancestors is crazy hard. Like a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. It's present day Mideast. All of them against tiny Israel. Look at the maps.
Mishael
There was much migration
After the flood ( Genesis 6-11)
People migrated southward into the river plains between the Tigris and Euphrates in just a few generations after Noah and family settled in the mountains of Aratat.
In Nimrod's day (Noah's great grandson) the Tower of Babel was built and God caused them people to speak in different languages and caused them to migrate in all directions.
They began to populate all continents from that time forward.
Herdsmen like Abraham were common and often lived somewhat nomadic as they traveled from pastureland to pastureland.
After Judah was taken to Babylon and Israel to Assyria those not taken stayed in and around Israel. Some migrated out if the area. Many Israelites and Jews stayed in Babylon and Assyria and did not return to the promised land. These them migrated north, south, east to settle in other areas.
At the time of Paul, Jew were settled all around the Mediterranean coastlands and the interior is Asia Minor.
After the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome in A.D. 70
Many Jews migrated out of the promised land.
There were migrations of tribal
Peoples to Africa and then continued to migrate south on that continent.
Peoples also migrate east to
India and China and the Far East. People migrated out of the Caucasus Mountains to Europe and Russia
People Migrated to north and South America.
So Gos saw to it that humans spread out upon the face of the earth, as was His will.
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