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  • Dan on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Why do you think it took god 400 years to listen to the prayers of the isralites and finally send Moses and free them from slavery?
  • Gigi - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Dan

    God foretold this to Abraham when He visited Abraham before destroying Sodom and Gommorah, renewing the covenant promises with Abraham, and saying that Sarah would get pregnant in her next cycle, (which happened)

    God also told Abraham that the height of sin of the Amorites had not reached the point to where God was going to judge them. But at the time of the exodus, the Israelites brought that judgment on the Amorite.

    There may be other reasons why God determined it to be 400 years, but it may have been to allow time for the Israelites to grow from one family/tribe to a nation large enough to drive out the nations n Canaan and possss the land as God promised. Even at several million , the Israelites had to continue to fight and contend with other people's to maintain control of the promised land. So perhaps this was a factor.
  • Dan - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Thank you so much that really helps a lot never thought of it in that way

    Have a great day ...
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Dan I apologize also for quite a while they lived in peace and not under bondage until the wicked pharoah

    tool over. Sorry should have had this in there last time.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Dan This is a time frame between when Joseph first got there under one pharoah and down the road another

    pharoah became ruler and as it says in Exodus 1:8 he knew not Joseph and started dealing wickedly with

    the children of Israel.
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Well, I'm sure as soon they set their hearts to call upon God he gave ear to them, but if the question is why where they are in bondage in the first place, id say It goes back to Joseph when he had the power over all of Egypt he sold the people of Egypt into bondage to Pharoah so as a punishment that happen. Why God chose 400 year i don't know he's God he can do whatever he wants.

    Gen 47:25-26 KJV - And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants. And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.
  • Gigi - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Spencer,

    Joseph did not cause his people to be enslaved, nor did he do It to pay back his brothers for their son against him. He forgave his brothers and invited them to come to Egypt during a lengthy fine across the lands in order to provide food and arible land for them in Goshen for their survival. Pharaoh at the time to was supportive of Joseph's family. So Joseph was chosen by God early in his life and he served God well despite the hardships he had to endure. God elevated Joseph to be second next to Pharaoh.

    And God used this favor to bless the Istaelites.

    God had foretold that Abraham's descendants would be in Egypt for all those years. They were there because God willed it. Jacob died in Egypt after live my there 60 years or so. Joseph and his brothers died in Egypt, too. Many generations passed by. Other Pharaohs came and went. Eventually, a Pharaoh ruled who did not favor the Istaelites and thus began their enslavement. I do think that by this time Israelites began adopting Egyption ways and idol worship (as the golden calf in Exodus demonstrates). God knew this would happen when He foretold this to Abraham.

    God was using this enslavement to:

    1) punish them for idolatry and for forsaking Him

    2) to make them ready and will to leave the good land of Goshen to return to the land promised to the descendants of Abraham.

    Perhaps you can go back and re-read about Joseph and the Israelites in Egypt.

    Joseph was a good man and should not be disparaged by followers of God.
  • Gigi - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 2 years ago
    Oops

    Meant sin not son

    And famine not fine.



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