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  • Valerie - 2 years ago
    What does it mean to not conform to the pattern of this world ( Romans 12:2)?
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Valerie,

    It means not to live for the worldly things, we are to live for Christ.

    Taking up our cross to follow Christ means we should have a commitment to giving up our worldly dreams, possessions, and change our life, and strive to live a new life.

    Matthew 16:24

    "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

    How many people want to hear and acknowledge this, and change?

    God Bless
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply - 2 years ago
    pattern? That's not KJV. saying do be like the perverted nasty ungodly people that know not God
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Spencer Shaw I believe sh'e saying the exact opposite but i could be wrong.
  • Gigi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Valerie

    That is a good question.

    These text you reference gives an answer:

    ...but be transformed by the renewing of your mind , that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

    If you go on to read the remainder of the chapter, Paul gives us examples of what we ought to think and do that is according to God's will.

    So, for me, I would endeavor to follow those instructions along with those in the remaining chapters of Romans.

    In Galatians 5:16-26,Paul talks about what walking in the Spirit means. Philippians 4:8 tells us what things our mind should focus on.

    But really, Valerie, no one can have the mind of Christ without being converted and having the Holy Spirit dwelling within the believer. So, believing the gospel, repenting of one's sinfulness, putting one's faith in Jesus and His work if salvation for us are necessary as a first thing.

    When one is thus converted, God'd Spirit in dwells a new believer, as this Spirit really does the work of conversion and we respond to this work in faith supplied by grace through the Spirit.

    After conversion, one will begin to grow in one's faith as the Spirit guides and causes growth and spiritual knowledge to come to a new believer. This growth happens continually throughout the believers life as one yields to the work of the Spirit within.

    So, Valerie the more we yield to the Spirit, he will conform us to imitate Christ through the intake of His holy word enlivened in us by the Spirit.

    Separating our affection from the things of the world happens but by bit, as we relinquish our love for worldly ideas, things, and practices and replace these with godliness that grace supplies.

    Hope this helps.

    You will probably get many good replies, as Rick already has done. Prayerfully seek

    What the Lord would have. You do In response to the Scriptures offered here.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Valerie First to get to renewed mind a person must be born again I.E. confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe and

    start changing your thoughts and habits to what Gods word says which is walking by the revealed knowledge of Gods

    Word. This is not sense knowledge thinking,sense knowledge thinking is based on sight,sound smell,touch, and taste.

    After born again new input holy spirit which requires putting on Gods thoughts on who we are in Christ and

    believing that in our day by day habit patterns or conscience thinking with consistence. Romans 12:2 By doing this

    we prove by believing in what God has done what is His good acceptable and perfect will. You cannot do this with

    sense knowledge thinking 1 Corinthians 2:14 because you cannot know God with experienced knowledge without Him

    revealing Himself by the holy spirit. Then our job Ephesians 4:24-32, Ephesians 5 whole Chapter, Phil. 2:1-15 this is

    some things of how to think, also the gospels is loaded with principles. Mathew Chapt.5,6,7, also John 14,15,16,17

    those of us who were going to believe what shall be. This is litterally the tip of the ice berg.



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