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  • Scott Parsons on 1 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    1 peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

    Written to scattered Israelites..........where is the undeniable biblical proof that the new covenant is for non-Israelites?

    Who are the Israelites? What is an Israelite? Are the tea brews correct when they say that the Israelites are a particular ethnic group and the gospel and salvation is only for God's people, the ethnic Israelites?

    'World' in the bible is an ambiguous word. According to particular verses; the tongue is a world, there are worlds, the end of the world has already happened. 'Gentiles' is also an ambiguous word because scattered Israelites are called Gentiles when they are idolatrous.

    I have found a few verses that seem to suggest that God Loves non-Israelites. Nineveh repented. Is there biblical proof that Nineveh were not scattered ethnic Israelites? Did Nineveh happen before Israel's offspring?

    I know that salvation is spiritual through belief and not flesh but not all Israel is Israel. That could mean that only Israelites can receive a spiritual rebirth.

    Does salvation only apply to ethnic Israelites?

    I'm collecting verses that debunk the doctrine that only ethnic Israelites can be children of God. There are multiple verses that say that God Loves Israel. I'm obviously looking for verses that say that God Loves people who aren't ethnic Israelites. John 3:16 uses the ambiguous word 'world'....'world' could mean Israel, it's not clear. 'Whosoever' could be talking about the Israelites. The scriptures were written by Israelites to Israelites, so 'whosoever' may only apply to Israelites.

    'All men' is also ambiguous because of the verse that says: you will be hated by 'all men' for my name's sake.

    Israelites were scattered into 'all' nations..the 12 tribes and 12 gates...

    The tea brews make some strong arguments that the bible is only for Israelites. Who are the Israelites?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Scott.

    God was saving People long before Abraham, There was no Israelite. But to answer your question, Here's one of many of many verses.

    Acts 15:7-11. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

    8) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

    9) And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

    10) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

    NOTICE VERSE 11.

    11) But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ ( WE SHALL BE SAVED EVEN AS THEY.)

    "We shall be saved even as they"

    If you're not careful you would think it should be the other way around.

    "They shall be saved even as us.

    Do you see the order of God's redemption plan spoken of by Paul to the Romans?

    Romans 9:25-26.

    Romans 9:31-33.

    Romans 10:1-4.

    Romans 10:19-21.

    Romans 11:8-25.

    Here's the conclusion.

    Romans 11:29-33.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I believe there are verses in Romans 11, Acts 10 that speak about Gentiles, being grafted into the house of Israel and that people from every nature can find salvation.



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