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  • Shaarei on James 1 - 2 years ago
    Discussion notes from Wesley

    The Father of lights , how does Wesley get ALL lights ?

    The verse does not say all light, but says the Fathervof LIGHTS!

    He is the light that LIGHTETH every man , THE LORD IS THE FATHER OF EVERY MAN!

    And furthermore, the explanation Wesley gives for NO SHADOW OF TURNING, is also incorrect. The notes read that some days shall be longer and some shorter. THIS IS SO INCORRECT! And should not have been added to discussion.

    Shadow of turning, is the sundial clock. When it is hands straight up, the sun is directly above us, THERE IS NO SHADOW OF TURNING! And so, THE LORD IS ALWAYS DIRECTLY ABOVE US, THERE IS NO SHADOW OF TURNING. nothing at all to do with length of days. I am finding mistakes in wesleys interpretations.

    I won't be reading His anymore.

    Thank You JESUS
  • Chris - In Reply on James 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello Shaarei. You're referring to James 1:17 & also to Wesley's notes to it. Wesley does agree to, "Father of Lights". But in his explanation further, he states, 'Father of ALL light', which applies to "the material or spiritual, in the kingdom of grace & glory". I can accept that God's Light is so great & all-consuming, that nothing, whether of matter or spirit, can escape its reach & penetration.

    "with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning". God can never change or can have anyone change Him; nor can He cast a shadow (as one's shadow would fall to a surface & move according to the sun's position), because God doesn't move from Who He is & what He does. That is my understanding & Wesley states, "In God is nothing of this kind", meaning, though He is Light & the Creator of all the light we see in the heavens, the effect of that light in the heavens that impacts our lives to some degree, has no impact on God, even if God should stand under its glow. I don't see that Wesley has said anything contradictory - given that no one person would fully agree with another on some of these interpretations & the thoughts & expressions also affect what we read.
  • Shaarei - In Reply on James 1 - 2 years ago
    No mention at all in wesleys notes of the sundial,

    And "ALL" is not written in THE WORD OF GOD !

    Father of LIGHTS! The light that LIGHTETH every man...

    This is not ALL LIGHTS.

    interpretation in self is always selfish.

    And there is no private interpretation.

    Howbeit when He, The Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide us into all truth, for He shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak, and He will show you things to come.

    Truth be with you and bring you to His paths of righteousness , for His Glorious names sake, The a mighty and high name of CHRIST JESUS



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