Some Doctrines we encounter may be strange to our ears and we rebuke and try to reason with scripture for reproof and for correction.
But after a while do we become a supporter of their folly by helping to provide them a platform?
Some have been warring against the truth for I know atleast a year now, "And there has been no change in their Doctrine.
So we say we do it to protect the new comers against these heresies. or perhaps the babes in Christ.
To a degree we may but in a sense we're trying to stop what we provided, and that's a platform.
Here's a few things to consider.
2 John 1:10-11.
2 Timothy 4:3-4.
In the ears of the natural man these far out false Doctrines appeals to them.
When do we come to the point to when we're casting our pearl before swine?
I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.
Is your interpretation of scripture/doctrine the only correct one? Christians have various views, and many Christians are evolving in their growth in the WORD.
I think this forum is working just fine. Everyone should be able to express their views on scripture as long as it is done in a respectful manner, as is already encouraged, and expressed in the rules of this forum.
I do think that the Word does tell us to be peaceable as far as it is possible. But, as you noted in both posts, we are to speak up when something is posted that obviously does not align with the teachings of the Word. This is not comfortable to do. It takes some courage and certainly prayer. Some people do not like that people discuss differences in beliefs on here, being uncomfortable with conflict. Others like a platform, like you said. Others, led by the Spirit, speak up when ideas are expressed that falsify who God is, or the gospel, or other ideas that challenge what is considered by the majority of believers through the ages as correct belief. I appreciate it when people speak up about what they truly believe, and I also appreciate it when people show courage and speak up to disagree, which opens the conversation up to a more lengthy interchange that more deeply addresses a topic. This is not a negative thing to do. To some it may seem to be, and those who think this way are free to not read a discussion or enter the conversation with a post.
Like , others here, I have lot to learn yet in my journey with Christ. I am compelled by posts that I agree with and disagree with to prayerfully study more on a topic and trust that the Holy Spirit will guide me in the truth, as He does for others who sincerely seek to find out more about a spiritual topic.
Thanks for your contributions to our discussions here.
It's funny how We share views of Scripture It's not the dialog that often breaks the peace It's what's sown within that reflects outwardly.
You don't have to give your view, just post the scripture and there's contention!
We shouldn't be surprised
The concept is all through scripture.
John 1:4-5.
No one is going out to seek contention, It's already there.
( Example)
Matthew 10:32-38.
God don't compromise his Holiness to exercise judgment and I don't think he asks us to when dividing the word.
We have to wonder If we're not going to win them over and they know they're not going to win us over, Why are they so adamant on keeping this dialog going? Perhaps they're after the audience. And this is where I believe 2 John 1:10-11 applies.
And if we've been battling this for I know over a year!! Perhaps this verse apply.
Matthew 7:6.
My question was when do it apply and if we're so fundamental about everything else why not this?
In the secular we call the democrats "liberals" But aren't we also as a whole.
And this especially goes for those who say salvation is by works and not by grace when Paul makes that clear all through Galatians starting here-
Galatians 1:6-8.
Paul says let them be a curse
But we call them Brother.
He also emphasize it in
Philippians 3:2-11. And this is the only "religion" given to Man and it slew us.
Now this is a peaceful dialog that you and I are having but some would say it's contentious.
And by the way I have been guilty of this as well, that's why I carefully say WE.
Yes this is difficult but did the Lord say it wouldn't be?
Whether someone is won over in a discussion or not really isn't up to us. It is a work of the Holy Spirit to convince.
For me, I wish to speak forth what I know to be orthodox doctrines because these have been wrestled with by those who sincerely wanted to have a solid scripture based answer to the questions concerning the spiritual matter at hand over the centuries since the beginning of the church age.
And in doing so, I feel that those in the discussion and those participating by simply reading will have heard something that they can study further. There is so much that can be googled now, so I would always urge anyone to look up topics and see what has been spoken by people other than myself. Then they can make a determination if what I have proposed adds up to what Scripture says. If it does not, I welcome people letting me know why they think that, so I can learn more.
Thanks for your response. I think my previous post was directly to the point.
Again, this is a bible forum for all people to share their points of view - if presented in a respectable manner. I may not agree with some posters doctrine/interpretation of bible scripture, but I don't want to shut the discussion down. If we remain humble and receptive, everyone can teach us something. I've learned a lot from you, and I continue to learn things from others here too!
I also want to say that I believe that the moderators here are doing a fine job!
God's true word will succeed, and HIS THRUTH will ultimately prevail without heavy handed moderation.
I've never posted concerns about the forum, They do a great job.
Here's a paste of what I said exactly.
My Quote :
I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.
You see the emphasis is that we are allowed to use the forum to witness and present ( ALL scripture ).
And these are the Scriptures I had I Mind.
2 John 1:10-11.
Mathew 7:6.
Mathew 7:13-23.
Galatians 8:1-9.
Matthew 12:30.
Are these Scriptures relevant today?
If so are they suggestions?
When do we apply them?
Are they given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?
If we believe Scripture is applicable today do we apply it to our walk?
In other words do you take what you believe in and put it in to action?
Are do we just say "No it's just a forum."
I believe it's more because we use it to lead people in to eternity and some whether they are continuous of it or not holds to a Doctrine that does otherwise.
So why bid them God speed after a year or so of dialog.
Hello fellow Brothers and Sisters.
Some Doctrines we encounter may be strange to our ears and we rebuke and try to reason with scripture for reproof and for correction.
But after a while do we become a supporter of their folly by helping to provide them a platform?
Some have been warring against the truth for I know atleast a year now, "And there has been no change in their Doctrine.
So we say we do it to protect the new comers against these heresies. or perhaps the babes in Christ.
To a degree we may but in a sense we're trying to stop what we provided, and that's a platform.
Here's a few things to consider.
2 John 1:10-11.
2 Timothy 4:3-4.
In the ears of the natural man these far out false Doctrines appeals to them.
When do we come to the point to when we're casting our pearl before swine?
I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.
God bless.
Is your interpretation of scripture/doctrine the only correct one? Christians have various views, and many Christians are evolving in their growth in the WORD.
I think this forum is working just fine. Everyone should be able to express their views on scripture as long as it is done in a respectful manner, as is already encouraged, and expressed in the rules of this forum.
God Bless.
Sorry but your comment misses the point.
We ALL Know there's different views.
But all views don't have anything to do with Christian faith.
Infact some views is an offense to the faith.
That's why I posted 2 John 1:10-11.
How do you Interpret that verse?
HERE'S PAUL RESPONSE TO ONE THAT SUPPORTS A WORKS BASED SALVATION.
Galatians 1:6-9.
Galatians 3:1-29.
How do you Interpret this?
And this
Matthew 7:6.
If one is preaching another Gospel How could he be Christian?
There's many views, But one truth.
I certainly don't know it all but I pray to have the courage to apply what little I do know!!
And these verses and many more seems to give value to my point.
God bless.
I do think that the Word does tell us to be peaceable as far as it is possible. But, as you noted in both posts, we are to speak up when something is posted that obviously does not align with the teachings of the Word. This is not comfortable to do. It takes some courage and certainly prayer. Some people do not like that people discuss differences in beliefs on here, being uncomfortable with conflict. Others like a platform, like you said. Others, led by the Spirit, speak up when ideas are expressed that falsify who God is, or the gospel, or other ideas that challenge what is considered by the majority of believers through the ages as correct belief. I appreciate it when people speak up about what they truly believe, and I also appreciate it when people show courage and speak up to disagree, which opens the conversation up to a more lengthy interchange that more deeply addresses a topic. This is not a negative thing to do. To some it may seem to be, and those who think this way are free to not read a discussion or enter the conversation with a post.
Like , others here, I have lot to learn yet in my journey with Christ. I am compelled by posts that I agree with and disagree with to prayerfully study more on a topic and trust that the Holy Spirit will guide me in the truth, as He does for others who sincerely seek to find out more about a spiritual topic.
Thanks for your contributions to our discussions here.
It's funny how We share views of Scripture It's not the dialog that often breaks the peace It's what's sown within that reflects outwardly.
You don't have to give your view, just post the scripture and there's contention!
We shouldn't be surprised
The concept is all through scripture.
John 1:4-5.
No one is going out to seek contention, It's already there.
( Example)
Matthew 10:32-38.
God don't compromise his Holiness to exercise judgment and I don't think he asks us to when dividing the word.
We have to wonder If we're not going to win them over and they know they're not going to win us over, Why are they so adamant on keeping this dialog going? Perhaps they're after the audience. And this is where I believe 2 John 1:10-11 applies.
And if we've been battling this for I know over a year!! Perhaps this verse apply.
Matthew 7:6.
My question was when do it apply and if we're so fundamental about everything else why not this?
In the secular we call the democrats "liberals" But aren't we also as a whole.
And this especially goes for those who say salvation is by works and not by grace when Paul makes that clear all through Galatians starting here-
Galatians 1:6-8.
Paul says let them be a curse
But we call them Brother.
He also emphasize it in
Philippians 3:2-11. And this is the only "religion" given to Man and it slew us.
Now this is a peaceful dialog that you and I are having but some would say it's contentious.
And by the way I have been guilty of this as well, that's why I carefully say WE.
Yes this is difficult but did the Lord say it wouldn't be?
Be strong in the Lord
God bless.
Whether someone is won over in a discussion or not really isn't up to us. It is a work of the Holy Spirit to convince.
For me, I wish to speak forth what I know to be orthodox doctrines because these have been wrestled with by those who sincerely wanted to have a solid scripture based answer to the questions concerning the spiritual matter at hand over the centuries since the beginning of the church age.
And in doing so, I feel that those in the discussion and those participating by simply reading will have heard something that they can study further. There is so much that can be googled now, so I would always urge anyone to look up topics and see what has been spoken by people other than myself. Then they can make a determination if what I have proposed adds up to what Scripture says. If it does not, I welcome people letting me know why they think that, so I can learn more.
God Bless you.
God bless
Thanks for your response. I think my previous post was directly to the point.
Again, this is a bible forum for all people to share their points of view - if presented in a respectable manner. I may not agree with some posters doctrine/interpretation of bible scripture, but I don't want to shut the discussion down. If we remain humble and receptive, everyone can teach us something. I've learned a lot from you, and I continue to learn things from others here too!
I also want to say that I believe that the moderators here are doing a fine job!
God's true word will succeed, and HIS THRUTH will ultimately prevail without heavy handed moderation.
God Bless
Here's where you're out of line.
I've never posted concerns about the forum, They do a great job.
Here's a paste of what I said exactly.
My Quote :
I understand to some this is "just" a KJV Discussion forum. However we do use it to try and win some over to Christ, If that's so then all Scripture is practical and not set aside till Sunday. We are to apply it and all of it, and all the time.
You see the emphasis is that we are allowed to use the forum to witness and present ( ALL scripture ).
And these are the Scriptures I had I Mind.
2 John 1:10-11.
Mathew 7:6.
Mathew 7:13-23.
Galatians 8:1-9.
Matthew 12:30.
Are these Scriptures relevant today?
If so are they suggestions?
When do we apply them?
Are they given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?
If we believe Scripture is applicable today do we apply it to our walk?
In other words do you take what you believe in and put it in to action?
Are do we just say "No it's just a forum."
I believe it's more because we use it to lead people in to eternity and some whether they are continuous of it or not holds to a Doctrine that does otherwise.
So why bid them God speed after a year or so of dialog.
God bless.
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