I believe Judas repented and was forgiven by Christ for his betrayal
1,at last supper the decipiles all asked is it I
2,Jesus said it is the one who dip into the bowl at the same time ad Jesus
And when he did satan immediately entered into Judas therefore satan was not in Judas before that
3 Jesus Said go quickly and do what you are to do
4. So Judas identified Jesus and they bound Jesus
5.he later said he betrayed an innocent man and repented
That is the same we all do when we realize as sinners we repent
And ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as our lord and savoir and he is just to forgive
6,Judas took the money and threw it back at the priest and left
And he went and hanged himself
Who would not feel such sorrow and depressed that he could have done such a thing
Depressed can get so depressed that they cannot accept what he did
He did not buy a field
That field was where he hung himself and where the priest buried the money as that they could put put blood money back in the treasury
How long hang on that tree before he started to decay
Not long as insects would attack an would be easy to fall from the Knose
And hit rocks head first to the. Rocks and spilt open
Resembling when in state people would split there clothes In sorrow
The veil of the temple split when Jesus died on cross and no longer needed any except Jesus to go to god for propitiation to god as he the way the truth any the only way to his father
Cannot Jesus forgive and remove devils he sure can
6 peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed
The deciples to stay awake while he prayed
He found them sleeping 2 times
Is that not betrayal
God forgave them and Peter
And all the deciples ran and hid when the crowd came and arrested Jesus to save their lived
Dear friends in Jesus. Is it not so that Judas have heard the word spoken by Jesus from the beginning of the journey with the Lord?
How is it possible to stand against the Word of God?
Judas have also seen all the work of God what Jesus did. How is it possible to stand against the Lord?
Could it have being any of the disciples who took food from the dish, that the devil get in to? No.
Or is this a huge picture of what money can do to ppl? Do we reely want money then and get stinginess?
I belive we can turn away from that issue, and we can be saved.
Acts 1:25
That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
In my KJV translation is might omitted. So its like this 25) to get part in this ministry the apostolic work that Judas abused, so he could go to his own place.
He was chosen by the Lord, Judas was a Apostle like the others, for sure the King loved him. He had no choice on this question it was predetermined. Someone had to do it unfortunately.
John 17:12
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
So i belive Judas have a place, but if its Judas Jesus talking about here, then he is lost.
God has declared the end from the beginning, He is in total control and it is hard for us to grasp with our human minds. It is for His pleasure and His glory and His counsel shall stand Isaiah 46:10. It is beyond our understanding, like what God allowed Satan to do to Job. I was not blessed with children and I cannot pretend to know how I would feel if I lost every child I had, along with all I owned. Do we have that kind of faith? The times are coming for those who are living when the end of days begins, it will take that kind of faith.
God uses people good and bad to do His will. Look at Pharaoh, God raised him to do His will Exodus 9:16. God named King Cyrus of Persia by name before he is even born to serve Him, Isaiah 45, and more.
I feel Jesus answers this, God gave the disciples to Jesus, and Judas was given to fulfill scripture. God knew who he was and he is one of two who is called the son of perdition.
John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
Amen! the phrase son of perdition is a title. And in the Bible, that's only given to two people; Judas Iscariot and the antichrist that is yet to come. Jesus chose an evil man (Judas) to fulfill an evil deed. Judas was among the 12 that followed along with the other 11 during Christ's ministry. But Judas was evil the entire time. Judas was the one who was put in charge of the treasury and he was stealing money from it. John 12:6 tells us that he was stealing out of the treasury of the disciples. He was stealing out of the money bag.
Judas was a scoundrel, what we don't keep in remembrance, the fact that Jesus was going to be crucified, put in a tomb, and resurrected on the third day, it was hidden from the disciples. They thought He was going to set up the kingdom then and Judas probably thought he would have a grand job in treasury where he would have access to the money. He did not kill himself until he saw Jesus was condemned, probably just before or after Jesus was crucified. Matthew 27:1-4
His comment, "I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood" he betrayed Jesus, and now they were killing him, he was not the Messiah because the Messiah was supposed to set up the kingdom, I turned in the wrong man. Just a thought, don't take it to the bank.
It is true that Judas repented. But is it really the same repentance that a person expresses when they realize their sin and need of a Savior. I would say no, and please allow me to explain how I come to this conclusion.
First off, we do know that the Bible says that Judas repented. But the word used where it says he repented is not the word used for repent as in making a decision to change the direction of your life and surrendering your life to Christ.
The repentance you mention that we as believers express is the word METANOEO which is true repentance where a person makes the decision to change the direction of their life. And that person must realize that they cannot change themselves. They need Christ to make that change.
The word METANOEO is not the word that was used for Judas where it says he repented. That word is METAMELOMAI which is a word that means to be sorry for your action.
So yes, Judas was sorry for his action, but he did not express true repentance and ask for forgiveness. Plus, Judas was evil from the very beginning when Jesus chose him to be part of the 12. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill an evil deed.
I just wanted to share this with you on the word repent. We see it in our English Bible and we know what repent means in English. But knowing that there is more than one word in the Greek text for our English word repent, I have to conclude that Judas was only sorry for his action (METAMELOMAI), because that's the word that was used, and he never truly repented (METANOEO).
For we all have sinned and come short of the glory of god
And recognizing that and asking for forgiveness
We repent of our sins
And from gods grace and mercy and faith
He is just to forgive
And gives us the holy sprit and from that moment we are reborn into the heaven of god the father god the son and god the Holy Spirit
We have a new Conscience
Judas said he betrayed an innocent man
And repented
I only use the kink James version
Not the new king James or any other
Because they change words an words change meaning
A. Is different than the
Kjv says for the love of money is the root of all evil
Even new kjv version uses a
Our Sunday school teachers wife said it was just semantics
Then I thought about it
And said well let's change this verse to an A.
Jesus said I am the way the life and the truth and no one comes to my father except thru me
Change that to and A then Jesus becomes irrelevant
Everyone one is trying to change repent to remorse
Think about it
If Judah at that time had remorse
Do you think satan would have any remorse
I don't think so
The field judas hanged himself in
Was purchased by iniquity not money
Judas split open after hanging from the tree how long was he there
The physical body starts decomposing fast
The veil of the temple also split when Jesus died on the cross
Meaning Jesus is now the. Perpetuation of our sins and intercedes for us thru god
Jeremiah chapter 31 and verse 34 says
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, no the Lord for they shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them say that the Lord for I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more
So I feel that Jesus and know that Jesus gave his life for all of us and is unlimited and his ability to love and to save
And that also applies to Judas.
Can I absolutely say that Judas was forgiven and went to heaven
I believe Judas repented and was forgiven by Christ for his betrayal
1,at last supper the decipiles all asked is it I
2,Jesus said it is the one who dip into the bowl at the same time ad Jesus
And when he did satan immediately entered into Judas therefore satan was not in Judas before that
3 Jesus Said go quickly and do what you are to do
4. So Judas identified Jesus and they bound Jesus
5.he later said he betrayed an innocent man and repented
That is the same we all do when we realize as sinners we repent
And ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as our lord and savoir and he is just to forgive
6,Judas took the money and threw it back at the priest and left
And he went and hanged himself
Who would not feel such sorrow and depressed that he could have done such a thing
Depressed can get so depressed that they cannot accept what he did
He did not buy a field
That field was where he hung himself and where the priest buried the money as that they could put put blood money back in the treasury
How long hang on that tree before he started to decay
Not long as insects would attack an would be easy to fall from the Knose
And hit rocks head first to the. Rocks and spilt open
Resembling when in state people would split there clothes In sorrow
The veil of the temple split when Jesus died on cross and no longer needed any except Jesus to go to god for propitiation to god as he the way the truth any the only way to his father
Cannot Jesus forgive and remove devils he sure can
6 peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed
The deciples to stay awake while he prayed
He found them sleeping 2 times
Is that not betrayal
God forgave them and Peter
And all the deciples ran and hid when the crowd came and arrested Jesus to save their lived
So is that not betrayal
God forgave
Only John present while jesus was crucified
And told John to take care of his mother
Judas had to do to fulfil the scriptures
How is it possible to stand against the Word of God?
Judas have also seen all the work of God what Jesus did. How is it possible to stand against the Lord?
Could it have being any of the disciples who took food from the dish, that the devil get in to? No.
Or is this a huge picture of what money can do to ppl? Do we reely want money then and get stinginess?
I belive we can turn away from that issue, and we can be saved.
Acts 1:25
That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
In my KJV translation is might omitted. So its like this 25) to get part in this ministry the apostolic work that Judas abused, so he could go to his own place.
He was chosen by the Lord, Judas was a Apostle like the others, for sure the King loved him. He had no choice on this question it was predetermined. Someone had to do it unfortunately.
John 17:12
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
So i belive Judas have a place, but if its Judas Jesus talking about here, then he is lost.
God has declared the end from the beginning, He is in total control and it is hard for us to grasp with our human minds. It is for His pleasure and His glory and His counsel shall stand Isaiah 46:10. It is beyond our understanding, like what God allowed Satan to do to Job. I was not blessed with children and I cannot pretend to know how I would feel if I lost every child I had, along with all I owned. Do we have that kind of faith? The times are coming for those who are living when the end of days begins, it will take that kind of faith.
God uses people good and bad to do His will. Look at Pharaoh, God raised him to do His will Exodus 9:16. God named King Cyrus of Persia by name before he is even born to serve Him, Isaiah 45, and more.
I feel Jesus answers this, God gave the disciples to Jesus, and Judas was given to fulfill scripture. God knew who he was and he is one of two who is called the son of perdition.
John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
God bless,
RLW
Amen! the phrase son of perdition is a title. And in the Bible, that's only given to two people; Judas Iscariot and the antichrist that is yet to come. Jesus chose an evil man (Judas) to fulfill an evil deed. Judas was among the 12 that followed along with the other 11 during Christ's ministry. But Judas was evil the entire time. Judas was the one who was put in charge of the treasury and he was stealing money from it. John 12:6 tells us that he was stealing out of the treasury of the disciples. He was stealing out of the money bag.
Judas was a scoundrel, what we don't keep in remembrance, the fact that Jesus was going to be crucified, put in a tomb, and resurrected on the third day, it was hidden from the disciples. They thought He was going to set up the kingdom then and Judas probably thought he would have a grand job in treasury where he would have access to the money. He did not kill himself until he saw Jesus was condemned, probably just before or after Jesus was crucified. Matthew 27:1-4
His comment, "I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood" he betrayed Jesus, and now they were killing him, he was not the Messiah because the Messiah was supposed to set up the kingdom, I turned in the wrong man. Just a thought, don't take it to the bank.
God bless,
RLW
It is true that Judas repented. But is it really the same repentance that a person expresses when they realize their sin and need of a Savior. I would say no, and please allow me to explain how I come to this conclusion.
First off, we do know that the Bible says that Judas repented. But the word used where it says he repented is not the word used for repent as in making a decision to change the direction of your life and surrendering your life to Christ.
The repentance you mention that we as believers express is the word METANOEO which is true repentance where a person makes the decision to change the direction of their life. And that person must realize that they cannot change themselves. They need Christ to make that change.
The word METANOEO is not the word that was used for Judas where it says he repented. That word is METAMELOMAI which is a word that means to be sorry for your action.
So yes, Judas was sorry for his action, but he did not express true repentance and ask for forgiveness. Plus, Judas was evil from the very beginning when Jesus chose him to be part of the 12. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill an evil deed.
I just wanted to share this with you on the word repent. We see it in our English Bible and we know what repent means in English. But knowing that there is more than one word in the Greek text for our English word repent, I have to conclude that Judas was only sorry for his action (METAMELOMAI), because that's the word that was used, and he never truly repented (METANOEO).
Judas said he betrayed and innocent man and repented
He returned the money and left
And hung himself
He could not accept what he did
But you forget Jesus said that what Judas did had to happen to fulfill the scriptures
The priest buried the money in the field that judas hanged himself
How long did hang on that tree
Neither you or me know that
But after death the body will decay fast
You first recognize you are a sinnner
Then repent
Do you or anyone know that Judas was forgiven by Jesus Christ
No
But I believe Jesus loved everyone
Jesus is god
Much bigger than you or I
Where do you see in Bible that Judas was always possessed with the devil
Read the Bible that at the moment Judas dipped there hands in the bowl
Satan immediately entered into Judas
So he was not there before
Jesus was beaten spit on and had to carry his own cross he was nailed to the cross and buried and arose in three days
He suffered in hell for 3 days
For us who are all sinners
Remember the man on the cross Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise
God the father god the son and the Holy Spirit are the same
So Judas is the only person who could not be forgiven
You see I am only asking a question
Not challenging gods word
I am a Christian and love god with all my heart with all my soul with all my mind
And Thank god giving me the privilege of being a physician to serve god in that compasity
I hate the thought of anyone going to hell
So do I known the way Judas went
I believe in redemption
We all will know one day
I just want everyone will go to heaven
But god gave us free will
All I can do is pray for the lost
And witness
God will judge all the unrighteousness
One day
I know without a doubt Jesus saved me
Can I not wish the same for all of us sinners
I am under not illusion that there is a hell
Bless you my brother in Jesus Christ
Have a wonderful Christmas
when a believer sins recognises it and ask and be thankful for forgiveness and move on. This is short version.
For we all have sinned and come short of the glory of god
And recognizing that and asking for forgiveness
We repent of our sins
And from gods grace and mercy and faith
He is just to forgive
And gives us the holy sprit and from that moment we are reborn into the heaven of god the father god the son and god the Holy Spirit
We have a new Conscience
Judas said he betrayed an innocent man
And repented
I only use the kink James version
Not the new king James or any other
Because they change words an words change meaning
A. Is different than the
Kjv says for the love of money is the root of all evil
Even new kjv version uses a
Our Sunday school teachers wife said it was just semantics
Then I thought about it
And said well let's change this verse to an A.
Jesus said I am the way the life and the truth and no one comes to my father except thru me
Change that to and A then Jesus becomes irrelevant
Everyone one is trying to change repent to remorse
Think about it
If Judah at that time had remorse
Do you think satan would have any remorse
I don't think so
The field judas hanged himself in
Was purchased by iniquity not money
Judas split open after hanging from the tree how long was he there
The physical body starts decomposing fast
The veil of the temple also split when Jesus died on the cross
Meaning Jesus is now the. Perpetuation of our sins and intercedes for us thru god
Jeremiah chapter 31 and verse 34 says
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, no the Lord for they shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them say that the Lord for I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more
So I feel that Jesus and know that Jesus gave his life for all of us and is unlimited and his ability to love and to save
And that also applies to Judas.
Can I absolutely say that Judas was forgiven and went to heaven
No I cannot
This comment thread is locked. Please enter a new comment below to start a new comment thread.
Note: Comment threads older than 2 months are automatically locked.
Do you have a Bible comment or question?
Please Sign In or Register to post comments...
Report Comment
Which best represents the problem with the comment?