Hello. You maybe thinking of Deuteronomy 22:5: "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."
If this is the verse in question, I understand that within the culture & acceptable norms for Israel, the sexes were not to resort to wearing the clothing that was appointed to the other sex. Even though their garments might have looked similar (as it probably did in those days), there would have been a clear distinction (whether by its cut or pattern) that differentiated between the two.
Today, a kilt is sometimes worn in Scotland & though one could consider it a type of skirt for women, that culture allows for men to wear it & women to wear an ankle length tartan skirt. Likewise, trousers & jeans are common garb for both men & women in our culture, whereas if a man wears a woman's skirt & maybe with high heels, he may be considered highly suspect. So, if a woman chooses to wear trousers, unless having to wear special clothing on a work-site, her trousers would be specifically cut for a woman & a clear distinction is made & seen, as with all her clothing; though jeans are probably a neutral garment & therefore an exception.
This customary law in Deuteronomy is interesting. How does it apply to us today. I think you explained it well. I do think that the clothing was similar. I do not think that men wore pants in those times. Most wore tunics. But in today's culture in our society, men and women are dressing similarly (like wit tunics in the past) with pants and shirts. I think the important takeaway is to dress with modesty, both men and women, and, both should not try to imitate the opposite sex in their appearance or persona.
Thank you for blessing us with your wisdom and knowledge.
Thank you for those extra thoughts, sister. I thought to check further when pants/trousers were first seen. Wikipedia tells me that the first sign of this was in (what is now) Western China & was dated between the 10th & 13th Centuries BC (this was learned from digging through ancient cemetries & the pants were made of wool, with straight legs & wider/loose fit nearer the hips).
And there have been various forms of pants, worn by both men & women, ever since. Though the wearers were initially criticized for wearing such strange apparel, it slowly became acceptable in society over the centuries. But you're correct that forms of the tunic & pants are still worn today, an example of which is seen in Pakistan & parts of India, where both men & women wear the 'Shalwar Kamiz', meaning, a loose pleated pant with a separate long tunic reaching to knee length worn over the Shalwar; yet what is worn is clearly different in cut & design for the two genders.
I agree. Look where we have come to in our present day. So many women dressing seductively. It is hard to tell the difference between the way a prostitute dresses and the way many women and teens dress. I pray for our culture swings back to modest dress styles. But, in this time in history, I am thinking it may get even worse.
I know. Last I checked, teenagers don't want to work to buy their own clothes. So it's the parents who $buy$ those clothes.
How have we become so weak and malleable that we trade cash in hand for 2 hrs of peace?
Our mother had the answer! Housework, laundry, cooking for 7 people, free lawn care, free babysitting and more!
Lev. And Deu. Outline cycles of correction. If parents don't love their kids by correcting them: God corrects the parents in cycles. Each worse than the last one. The final cycle being that the children consume the parents. [live at home till they're 40, take money for nothing, etc]. It's meant to be painful enough for parents to change. Listen to God. He's trying to help us.
Yes I trained my kid the same way. He bought his first house at 21. He launched himself.
And who determines what clothing is strictly for men and what is strictly for women? The Bible does not itemize what is men's or women's clothing. Each culture throughout time has its own norms, and these norms can differ between cultures of the same time period. Something to think about.
If this is the verse in question, I understand that within the culture & acceptable norms for Israel, the sexes were not to resort to wearing the clothing that was appointed to the other sex. Even though their garments might have looked similar (as it probably did in those days), there would have been a clear distinction (whether by its cut or pattern) that differentiated between the two.
Today, a kilt is sometimes worn in Scotland & though one could consider it a type of skirt for women, that culture allows for men to wear it & women to wear an ankle length tartan skirt. Likewise, trousers & jeans are common garb for both men & women in our culture, whereas if a man wears a woman's skirt & maybe with high heels, he may be considered highly suspect. So, if a woman chooses to wear trousers, unless having to wear special clothing on a work-site, her trousers would be specifically cut for a woman & a clear distinction is made & seen, as with all her clothing; though jeans are probably a neutral garment & therefore an exception.
This customary law in Deuteronomy is interesting. How does it apply to us today. I think you explained it well. I do think that the clothing was similar. I do not think that men wore pants in those times. Most wore tunics. But in today's culture in our society, men and women are dressing similarly (like wit tunics in the past) with pants and shirts. I think the important takeaway is to dress with modesty, both men and women, and, both should not try to imitate the opposite sex in their appearance or persona.
Thank you for blessing us with your wisdom and knowledge.
And there have been various forms of pants, worn by both men & women, ever since. Though the wearers were initially criticized for wearing such strange apparel, it slowly became acceptable in society over the centuries. But you're correct that forms of the tunic & pants are still worn today, an example of which is seen in Pakistan & parts of India, where both men & women wear the 'Shalwar Kamiz', meaning, a loose pleated pant with a separate long tunic reaching to knee length worn over the Shalwar; yet what is worn is clearly different in cut & design for the two genders.
Thank you for the update. I guess perhaps climate played a part in whether people wore pants of just tunics or combo. But, I am glad you looked it up.
1 TIMOTHY 4:1
There are other (sort of) dress code scriptures. A Christian woman doesn't dress worldly; showing a lot of skin in too tight clothing. My opinion.
Read those scriptures.
I agree. Look where we have come to in our present day. So many women dressing seductively. It is hard to tell the difference between the way a prostitute dresses and the way many women and teens dress. I pray for our culture swings back to modest dress styles. But, in this time in history, I am thinking it may get even worse.
How have we become so weak and malleable that we trade cash in hand for 2 hrs of peace?
Our mother had the answer! Housework, laundry, cooking for 7 people, free lawn care, free babysitting and more!
Lev. And Deu. Outline cycles of correction. If parents don't love their kids by correcting them: God corrects the parents in cycles. Each worse than the last one. The final cycle being that the children consume the parents. [live at home till they're 40, take money for nothing, etc]. It's meant to be painful enough for parents to change. Listen to God. He's trying to help us.
Yes I trained my kid the same way. He bought his first house at 21. He launched himself.
Like wise men don't wear womens clothing .
attire 1 Peter 3:3+4 for women basically nothing indiscreet the unbelievers anything goes, but that's the world.
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