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  • David on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Was the altar fire burning when they were on the move?
  • Chris - In Reply on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Hello David. The Bible does not specify what happened to the fire on the Altar whilst Israel was on their march. Just as we don't know how the Shewbread on the table ( Exodus 25:30) was replaced. I understand most scholars agree that the Fire was extinguished for the duration of the march, but re-lit whilst in situ near the Tabernacle. Likewise, the Shewbread was replaced by a synchronized sliding in of the new Bread as the old one was removed.

    It's interesting that the Jerusalem Talmud has this to say about it (for your interest only & not as declared Truth):

    "Rabbi Yohanan said, "Even during transport the fire was not allowed to go out". What did they do? During transport they covered the fire with a copper hood. Rabbi Shimon said, "During transport they tended the fire in a separate vessel, not on the altar itself".

    Whether Jews today still accept the belief of those Rabbis, I'm unclear.
  • David - In Reply on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Chris Forget the comment made by me I'm a different David commenting on something else sorry!
  • David - In Reply on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris Thanks for the info but what I addressed had nothing to do with that also like you said your not saying the talmud is truth so I will stick with what I know Is. I'm thankful for the [figure of speech] Fire of the spiritual gift of Holy spirit that helps to cleans me of error or sin after I was born again. An interesting custom in the east is that in the houses they kept a candle burning 24/7 to represent the presences of God it is to this day part of their culture.
  • David - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Earl With all due respect the fire in the bush did not consume it, it was to get moses attention so God could speak to Him, Elijah had an altar built and the fire of God came down and consumed the alter, many times when elijah called down fire it was dealing with unbelief. It's very interesting that in the Gospel of Mathew 3:11=12 we are baptized in Holy spirit and with fire signifying as we walk in the faith of Christ putting on Hods Word the old man nature gets burned up the chaff.

    You are correct thank you that many times fire signifies spiritual cleansing.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Brother David, the ALTER FIRE is: The Fire of the Lord, the same fire that burned up Gideon's offering, the same fire in the bush before Moses, same fire that Elijah called down, same fire that destroyed Sodom, same fire you are baptised with, the same fire on the mountain when Moses received the commandments, same fire before the children of Israel in the wilderness, same fire in Malachi 3 that purifies us, same fire in 1 Corinthians 3:15 that saves us, same fire IN REVELATION.

    Aaron's son were killed because they used strange fire (probably physical) instead of the FIRE OF THE LORD.

    Yes, they carried the alter fire with them, it's WITHIN US today.
  • Stones of Remembrance and Altars - In Reply on Leviticus 6 - 2 years ago
    Wisdom's seven pillars in the Bible: according to scripture, are: fear of the Lord, instruction, knowledge, understanding, discretion, counsel, and reproof.

    1 Samuel 7:7-12 depicts the Israelites under imminent attack from the Philistines. God leads them to victory, so Samuel erects a large stone and names it Ebenezer, meaning 'the stone of help'.

    Genesis 28-32+

    The first Biblical reference to memorial stones comes in Genesis 28: 10-22, when Jacob set a pillar in Bethel to commemorate a powerful vision of God that he experienced while sleeping there. The experience was so striking that Jacob felt that it must be commemorated, so he erected the stone upon which he slept. [comment: Jacob built pillars all along his path. Stones of remembrance.]

    Altar Fires Leviticus 6

    12 And the fire upon the altar shall be burning in it; it shall not be put out: and the priest shall burn wood on it every morning, and lay the burnt offering in order upon it; and he shall burn thereon the fat of the peace offerings.

    13 The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.

    [priests oversaw the altar duties]

    Comment: Pillars of stones were used to mark or commemorate something. For some of us it would be well to build a pillar of stones to remember that a major life event (like forgiveness to an individual) took place and the pile is testimony to that. For some of us, each stone is a person who wronged us, and we forgave them. Or, Maybe a fallen friend on a battlefield you want to remember forever.

    No comments please. People remember others their own way. Veterans Day is set aside to remember fallen soldiers. I have a basket of rocks taken from each grave, of a soldier I honor. They are not forgotten.



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