Bible Discussion Thread

Knowing the words of Christ never change.

This bible I have has not changed. This I suppose because the world has never changed!

The sinful nature of man never changes, their is nothing new under the sun!

There is however this He says!

That the world shall wax worse over time. The condition ,though the same. will worsen?

If you know His word and have lived long enough, you too would know these things!

Their are Pastors and priests who teach otherwise, that it is not possible for a loving God would send men and woman soul too hell! These so called docs of theology in their own ignorance will take you too hell right along with them!

Hell is a real place ! Damnation is a real word!

Repent and be baptized F.E.S.

We are condemned already, Born into sin. You must be born again!

Hi Fred I don't understand your statement God sends someone to hell, that contradicts these scripture. John 3:16-19 those who [choose] to believe not. They liked there evil deeds. Romans 1:21-24 Gods gave them over but there choice or will not to glorify God. Gods will is 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. God does not condemn or accuse that's the adversaries job, man by freedom of will or choice or if you will is manipulated to not believe and walk away from God. God already knows mans condition that was the whole purpose of sending His Son knowing that some would believe and be rescued. Again John 3:16 think about it.

The will of God is our salvation. It was from the will of God that the very thought of salvation first arose. Had we been left to our own wills; we should have been willing to wander further and farther from God. No man originated the idea of restoration for our race; God himself willed it, and it is from the purpose of his grace that all our hopes begin; Spurgeon

Fred Now that I have no problem with our salvation was Gods Will [on Earth peace GOOD WILL toward men] announcement by angels concerning our Saviour!

Hi David, I understand Fred's statement, but not yours. Is it possible that you don't believe in hell? Hell is mentioned many times in the Bible and is not a contradiction; someone who truly believes in the Bible would believe what the Bible says about hell, correct?

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Do you think the Bible says that people who intentionally choose evil shouldn't be punished, like Hitler murdering 6 million Jews? Do you believe the Bible in James 2 where it says even demons believe?

God bless...

Brother Adam, wouldn't you think when God told Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree of KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL, he would have told them that their punishment would be HELL. If it's real and punishment for sin, why didn't he tell them of this place.

Why is it that HELL only shows up when the Hebrew scriptures are translated to other langues.

Hi Earl,

It sounds like you're using a single speculative assumption to suggest that hell isn't real despite the multitude of Bible verses about it?

If you believe in Jesus, wouldn't His words carry more weight than a single speculative idea? Jesus talked about hell plenty, including in: Luke 12:5 - so do you not believe Jesus?

I'll address your comment in 2 parts:

1. You wrote: "If it's real and punishment for sin, why didn't he tell them of this place."

Maybe He did. How can you prove that He didn't? The Bible also never mentioned Adam & Eve going to the bathroom or bathing or using basic hygiene. Does that automatically mean they didn't? It also doesn't say they were "human beings" so does that mean they were lizard people or space robots? The Bible doesn't say its even a Bible, so does that automatically mean it's not one? When people use logic of what 'wasn't' said or a logic of omission, some tend to draw false assumptions and illogical inferences from that.

2. You wrote: "Why is it that HELL only shows up when the Hebrew scriptures are translated to other langues."

That's untrue. How did you come to believe that?

If I may one of the reasons why in the garden of eden Hell or the grave may not have been mentioned is that no one was dead yet and buried now to cover bases I said said it may be, but I see assumptions on scripture made all the time that aren't correct. One of the most popular it is assumed that the wise men and shephereds saw jesus at the same time when the scriptures don't say that. The shepherds were told babe in a manger Luke 2:12 the wise men saw a child in a house Mathew 2:1. I see people add subtract multiply and divide scripture all the time the challenge is sticking with it is written.

Fred and Adam I see again where what is stated is pulled out of context I never said I did't believe in hell the subject matter was is it Gods will for some one to Go to hell the answer no its there choice by unbelief. Don't throw throw scripture that are out of context to subject matter. We also didn't discuss being born again or not born again which would change context of conversation and if this is the way you communicate I'll be blessed to end this and say peace to both of you. Hell and damnation are both real now if you both want to choose who goes there and who doesn't my position is those without sin cast the first stone. I thought Gods will was to save those that choose to believe which was the context which has nothing to do with what you both commented on.

Hi Adam When did I ever state that I do not believe in hell that's an assumption on the reader and nor scriptural.