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  • John Zindel on Romans 13 - 2 years ago
    Wow.. quite a powerful chapter..Paul reaffirming how God views the king (governments )of the world.. ministers doing God's bidding to test his people.. to speak truth but Obey the power to the point of death.. it glorifies God for his people to put on Christ and his spirit guides to obey his commandments.. 10 of em.. they are all listed but the first 4 are crucial to know who God is.. in Jesus day the religious leaders demanded that the state try him and crucify him for violating their religious law.. in the end it will be the same way where the religious leaders are the ones asking the state to enforce their law.. it's the one they got called blue laws..say they pass a law requiring people to rest on SUNDAY..? LOOK IN EZEKIAL 8 and see what God thinks of sunworship.. it doesn't say but clearly men are facing east worshipping the sun... Done on the 1st day of the week.... Women weeping for Tammuz.. the pagan cross comes from the T ... I apologize for not listing verses but look .. we can't say we love God bit do not have the faith of Jesus to obey the commands . In John Jesus says over and over .. that he only did what his father commanded him and he knew that commandment leads to eternal life... Hmm... 10 are 1.. he didn't come to get rid of the law but to fulfill it . By this and his blood he can now enter the heavenly sanctuary to cleanse our confessed sins.. well he's already commenced with the cleansing of the sanctuary starting in 1844... Soon it will be too late for repentance.. the three angels messages... We are in the last hrs.. mark of the beast crisis is approaching.. this mark represents the sign of authority of this kingdom.. same as God's seal is his sign of authority over his people... The anti-christ thinks to change times and laws. Rome fell and the papacy rose to power in 538 AD.. Possessing both civil and ecclesiastical authority they persecuted God's people and they fled west.. the shaking and remnants.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Romans 13 - 2 years ago
    John Zindel,

    The Roman Catholic Church, there are many hideous things done that are recorded. In Revelation 2 the beginning of it, Jesus referred to as Nicolaitans. I will not get in depth but give a few things you may look at and study. Please do not take as debating but from one who has been there.

    Is the name antichrist, just what has been developed over the years with man-created theories? Martin Luther was convinced that the pope in his time was the antichrist. Many say it is the Papacy, looking at the history of the Roman Catholic Church and the times the beast is to make war with the saints looks possible.

    If days = years, using 30-day months calculating 42 months or 3.5 years = 1260 days = 1260 years. Using recorded dates of 538AD as the time when the papacy became an established power until 1798AD when the French general Berthier, with the French army, marched into Rome and dismantled the political rule of the Papacy and took the Pope prisoner, 1798-538=1260. This could be the deadly wound to the head, but.

    Prophetic years are based on 30-day months, 360-day years, that is why all these times are listed 42 months, 1260 days, and 3.5 years. Even if you believe the days = years, using 360-day year, 1260 years would be 1241.89 365.25-day years. 1260 x 360 = 453600 days divided by 365.25 = 1241.89 years so, if you start at 538 AD it gets you to 1779 AD therefore the dates do not match.

    Some things paint beautiful pictures that look to be true, until we look under the covers. Revelations show us it is not just one. Satan, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit, the false prophet, and the mother of harlots the city Babylon. I hope this will be taken for something to study, not something to offend.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Romans 13 - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Ronald!



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