Bible Discussion Thread

  • LINO
    Why are we not now - in the present, living out Isaiah 11:6-9? - Which tells us that the coming Kingdom will be free of harm. Isaiah 65:25, Hosea 2:18, Ezekiel 34:25, Romans 14:17.

    Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.

    It seems to me there is absolutely no reason to slaughter any sentient beings other than to fill our stomachs with rotting flesh. This practice does not paint a picture of the peaceable kingdom in the garden of Eden. Animal husbandry is barbaric-inhumane-void of compassion.

    "Compassion, in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind." Albert Schweitzer

    "I believe in my heart that faith in Jesus Christ can and will lead us beyond an exclusive concern for the well being of other human beings to the broader concern for the well-being of the birds in our backyard, the fish in our rivers, and every living creature on the face of the earth." John Wesley, Christian Theologian.

    "I am persuaded you are not insensible to the pain given to every Christian, every humane heart, by those savage diversions, bull-baiting, cock-fighting, horse-racing, and hunting." John Wesley

    In Genesis 9:3 God gave Noah the permission to eat animal flesh. This was a concession to man's sinfulness. But when you look at the verse in it's context, it is clear that God is only grudgingly giving humans this permission. "Vegetarianism practiced in the Garden of Eden ( Gen. 1:29-30, 2:16), and the prophecy that natural predators will live together peacefully in the future (Is 11:6-8), suggest that the eating of animal flesh isn't God's ideal." Steve W. Bemke

    In the presence of Jehovah

  • Chris - in Reply
    Well written Lino. However, I would like to throw in Acts 10:9-16. Even though the message here was to show Peter that all things that God has given (especially in respect to the equality of Jews & Gentiles) are clean, it can't be avoided that animals were part of the diet of human beings. Or else, why use such an 'abominable' illustration of the offering of unclean animals for food? What if Peter had earlier understood this lesson of equality & did rise & partook of them? After all, God had offered. Or maybe, another could say, 'we should only eat animals that God Himself has cleansed & none other'. This also may be true, but the point is, that animals can be eaten, and yes, I do agree with you that all too often we have lost sight of understanding & giving a proper care & preservation of both the flora & fauna that God has given us to enjoy.

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