Bible Discussion Thread

  • Ilya on Joshua 1:9
    6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    This site promotes the falsehood of "space".
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    Genius 1:16

    Amos 5:8

    1 Corinthians 15:14

    Genius 2:4

    Psalms 115:16 (space) the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?

    Psalms 147:4

    Psalms 136:9

    Revelation 6:13

    Job 25:5

    Job 9:7

    Job 22:12

    Psalms 8:3

    Joel 2:10 Eclipse? Ezekiel 32:7 , Isaiah 50:3

    Isaiah 13:10

    Isaiah 40::22

    Hopefully these scripture verses help you better research the Bible & what more it says about Earth, and space. There are more.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    Please excuse the incorrect scriptures that were irrelevant. There is an error that has been occuring lately with alteration of my noted scriptures.

    You are welcome to use searching boxes for additional research on this issue.
  • Ilya - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    Genesis 1:16 Just refering to God making lights in the firmament of heaven, not a word about space

    1 Cor 15:14 Nothing to do with space

    Genesis 2:4 Not related at all

    Psalms 115:16

    16The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

    "the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?"

    What? Scripture is not for private interpretation.

    None of the rest of the verses have at all any implication of space, please point me the exact words or phrase, where the existence of space is even remotely implied. I will point you to exact words where space is outright denied, in a second.

    But some of the verses you provided actually hint at the solid nature of heavens.

    Isaiah 40:

    "Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?"

    First of all, not a word about other planets, second "meted out heaven with the span". It's impossible to measure something with a span that is not solid.

    Job 22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

    Space has no height, it stretches in all directions, solid heavens have height.

    Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble

    How something not solid can tremble?

    Now I assure you, there's plenty of scripture that directly states, that the earth is flat, unmovable, and there's no space or other planets, but I would like you to debunk first this one please:

    Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    Where are the waters above?
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Joshua 1:9

    You ask: Where are the waters from above?

    The moisture including rain and snow fall to our earth, from the Heavens above. God can provide us with this vital water, and can also take it away. He reminds us of this periodically, with floods, and droughts.

    When you say impossible: nothing is impossible for God.

    Luke 1:37

    "For with God nothing shall be impossible."

    God Bless.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Joshua 1:9

    14 And God said, Let there be LIGHTS in the firmament of the HEAVEN to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

    15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

    16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the STARS also.

    17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

    18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

    19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

    No offense, but your claims are hollow. God made all provision for mankind. Read Proverbs 8:21-36

    The Bible, the ENTIRE BIBLE; is about a person: JESUS CHRIST. From Genesis to Revelation.

    > IF HE HAD WANTED TO INCLUDE A CHAPTER explaining: space, what's under the oceans, land masses, and all that scientific jazz__no scientists, archaeologists, geologists, Vulcanologists, meteorologists etc would've been able to be BORN AGAIN. Science was to teach them SOMEONE MADE ALL OF THIS!!! Romans chapter 1.

    In saying what you did, as Romans 1 says: You are without excuse. You've kicked the GODHEAD to the proverbial Curb.

    Genesis 1:1

    The Father purposes

    The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

    The Spirit (Holy Spirit) Action. executes the spoken word.

    You can't imagine anyone greater than you are. Worshipping stars and planets carries a death sentence. I used to be one of those people. And then Jesus appeared to me in a vision. I saw Him.

    2 Timothy 3:5. I was teaching something that had no power. He's the only one who can save you from the darkness just out of our range of sight. You haven't a clue what you are missing out on: Knowing personally the Person who made all of this. Knowing his mind, his heart, his voice in your spirit. Telling you that you are LOVED.

    come back
  • English sacha - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    Hi Ilya , it doesn't sound to me as if you like the Bible very much . If you have come on here to shake the faith of those of us who do like it , you will have to do much better than that . Good luck .
  • Mishael - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    One night I kept hearing this same song being sung in my spirit. I almost got annoyed with my brain!

    Then it hit me. The Holy Spirit was singing it.

    I get in the closet under the clothes :D

    It's one of my fav songs: "I Walk The Line" by Johnny Cash. First I'm thinking I missed it, made a mistake?

    He starts singing and so do I. He was singing to me! I love him so much my heart feels about to erupt. You'd think he'd prefer Handells Messiah, but He knows what we are on the inside. I always wonder if I gross Him outbut He sings a country tune with me. Happy tears!
  • English sacha - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    We love Johnny Cash and Roy Orbison , don't know if Roy was a Christian but Mr Cash definately was , we are going to hear some awesome singing in the world to come , I have a terrible singing voice ! Music is an instant fix for me , it is such a joy and it even helps me to get through all the boring chores of the day . How awesome must the Israelites have sounded as they sang songs of praise in David and Solomon's days .
  • Chris - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    Ilya. You're referring to the wrong book. The Bible doesn't speak of 'space/outer space', because these words were unknown then. The Web tells me the following: "The expression outer space was used as an astronomical term by Alexander von Humboldt in 1845. It was later popularized in the writings of H. G. Wells in 1901."

    So, if you want to see more about outer space or "the heavens" in the Bible, then T. Levis has given you many verses to work through.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Joshua 1:9
    You just want an argument. I spent my time volunteering, studying the scriptures, freely; to help you. To point out scriptures for you to clearly show you GOD's infallible WORD points out the earth being round & rotation around in orbital circuit) before science ever could imagine. I am actually very interested in interstellar activity & scientific planetary discovery. We follow it rather closely. That's why I was quick to jump at your questions. (while everyone else skipped it)

    The more I study GOD's WORD the more I am in awe of how much it really does say about space. I just recently found the scripture that I noted earlier That the heaven belongs to GOD but the earth ._to/for man. I would love to see a base on the moon & other planets, however that scripture hit me hard. It is GOD's not man's, what an amazing privilege to allow us to explore, yet very difficult, costly etc. i.e. The spacesuits needed for the moon trip won't even be ready for the scheduled & approved, expected missions of 2024! The more I study & witness history I've seen the Bible doesn't contradict science, science over time ends up proving the Bible is true & even logical reasons for GOD's laws.

    Whenever you really would like answers for questions in life, the WORD, prayer, truth = we are here 24/7

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