Bible Discussion Thread

  • Donna Smith
    When was satan cast out of heaven in the bible? Scripture to back this up. Is chapter 13 in revelations historical? Scripture to back up. Is satan still allowed to talk to God about the body of Christ in condemning them? Scripture please.
    Oh yeah Satan accuses us before the throne, night and day.

    Jesus, your ADVOCATE, walks forward and opens THE BOOK OF LIFE.

    If your name is found BORN AGAIN. ( John 3): Jesus shows this to God.

    It is announced as NOT GUILTY



    Everybody who is saved will be taken to heaven in Less than an eye blink. You have to be saved by the blood of Jesus NOW, in order to be written in the Lambs Book of Life.

    Every child on the face of the earth; even fetuses in the womb; will be taken to heaven at the moment of the rapture (CAUGHT UP IN THE CLOUDS TO JESUS).

    He could come back any day now.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Sister Donna, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You will never understand the Word of God without putting ALL the Words of God together. And even then the Holy Spirit has to explain it to you.

    Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:

    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue (the Holy Spirit) will SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE.

    It takes LOTS OF TIME and STUDY to even begin to understand. Most people just believe what other people tell them.

    Revelation is a book that has been SIGNIFIED ( Revelation 1:1) meaning the word (such as heaven) represents something other than its meaning as given in a dictionary.

    Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven ....Now we know heaven represents something other than its definition in a dictionary. It takes other verses to Know what it represents.

    Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven ...

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has COME unto YOU.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon WAS CAST OUT (of heaven)(out of you)....You are the NEW HEAVEN ( Revelation 21:1) where GOD dwells. Colossians 1:27

    Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION ....

    Luke 10:18 And he said unto him, I saw SATAN as lightning FALL FROM HEAVEN (from within YOU).

    Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION, and POWER, and THE KINGDOM OF OUR LORD ....

    To understand the third killed in Revelation, you have to understand Ezekiel 5:1-5 and Zachariah 13:8-9 and Malachi 3:2-3
  • Carleton - in Reply
    Brother Earl, A morning meditation: One that God has drawn to Himself in all fullness, can the same in the flesh rob God? Likely it is afternoon where you live, what would be your afternoon meditation, if you please?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Brother Carleton.

    I don't really know how to tell you in words the way the Spirit works in me.

    I don't seem to think on one thing for long periods of time, to meditate on just a single topic.

    From the time I awake scriptures constantly time over and churn in my mind. It's like an all day discussion with the Spirit. Back and forth, the Spirit seeming to constantly cause me to compare scriptures with other scriptures. Like everyone, there is difficulties understanding. I've learned to just ask the Spirit to cause me to understand, and not keep dwelling on what hasn't yet been revealed. Sometime latter, days maybe weeks, a scripture will appear that I may have seen hundreds of times, and the Spirit will cause me to see the answer I was seeking.

    If I'm not having to do something that pertains to physical life; I have my head buried in God's Word. I can not get enough of it. It's like an addiction.
  • English sacha - in Reply
    Hi Earl , that's a good addiction . I am similar to you in a way . There are the day to day things we have to do , the worldly physical things that need to be sorted . As soon as my mind is off them because they are done , it goes into the Bible , when I'm in the bath ,washing the dishes etc

    no not washing the dishes in the bath hahah , ,sometimes I'm reading one book ( Les miserables by Victor Hugo ) , but I'm not reading it , I'm looking at it but thinking of something from the Bible . Someone is chatting away to me , I'm not really listening , hope they can't tell , I'm thinking about how emotional it must have been for the Israelites when they started to re build the temple , I'm reading Ezra . I suspect it is because , the longer we have known the truth , the less important the things of this life are to us . It's hard to get really involved in anything if you know it doesn't really matter . I haven't argued with anyone about anything that pertains to this life for decades . You are not alone Earl , I don't know about physically but I know , you are not alone spiritually , God is with you Jesus is with you and thousands of Christians are on the same path as you . Desperate for the return of Christ .
  • Psalm 23 - in Reply
    To Earl

    1 Samuel 22 - David at the Adullam Cave, or go to: Enduring Word dot com. It's a good read.

    I go to this cave often. It's where I get my mind and spirit re-synced. OR, I listen to a song, sit in that cave, and worship. [Don't judge the singerjust listen to the song. Troubadour, and another song: Without Guileby John Michael Talbot.]

    When my mind starts spinning, doing burnouts in the dirt: it's time to be alone with Jesus. Sometimes He wants to minister to his ministers.

    King David often went to this cave. It had special use and meaning to him. He had to get anointed, healed, restored.

    When the healers get worn down, it's time to go to the Healer.

    Jesus is the Well, we go to to be refilled with living water, get our feet washed.

    It's necessary. I know some may argue that. Be kind to yourself.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply
    Donna Smith,

    There are several opinions on this, we know Satan was the first to rebel, the first to sin, a murderer, and is the father of lies ( John 8:44). We see in Isaiah 14 God said, take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, many take vs. 12 O Lucifer son of the morning as being Satan describing his casting out.

    The word Lucifer, the morning star is another word for the planet Venus, Latin roots lux (light) and ferre (to carry) it is its brightest right before sunrise. It is also called a day star because it can be seen in the daytime.

    We see in ( Ezekiel 28:12-19) Is a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, where the description of Satan is taken. In ( Job 1) and ( Job 2) " the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord" (angels) Satan showed up. So at this time Satan still had access to heaven. In ( Luke 10:18) Jesus said "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Whether past or future? Whether it was his ranking or permanent?

    Now in ( Revelation 12:7-17) and Revelation 13:1-2), the war in heaven where the red dragon and his angels are cast out into the earth. In verse 8 there is no more place for them in heaven. In verse 12 they are rejoicing in heaven and the warning, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth" because Satan knows he only has a short time.

    My understanding, Revelation 12 starts the great tribulation when Satan is permanently cast down with no more access to heaven and gives his power seat and great authority to the beast. Revelation 12, if you look at the Greek it is Satan standing on the sand of the sea when the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit. ( Revelation 9:11) ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8).

    May this help your study, you can use, bible simple search KJV, just type in to edge, google, yahoo or whatever search you use, also this site. Type in devil, Satan, and it will pull all scripture that contains these words you can study.

    God bless,

  • Adam - in Reply
    Revelation 12:9

    Luke 10:18

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