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  • Thami on Revelation 4
    Good day, I would like to ask about the four beasts in Revelation 4:7. What do they represent?
  • Carleton - in Reply on Revelation 4
    Daniel 7:9 says "thrones were cast down" , if we were to consider this meaning, seats were set up. Seats for both Old and New Testament believers whom overcame forces of evil, kingdoms of the world, and understood and were kept spiritually safe in the church in the wilderness. True authority has one Throne and only one seated at the Throne. Lightenings and thunderings are the powers of God. How close can saved men be to this Throne, the Throne of Righteousness? As close as the New Covenant the rainbow. This rainbow is the hope and peace between God and saved men.The sea of glass is ahead of the Throne. The redeemed could stand on this sea of glass because their sins were now transparent. The light of God could pass through them completely because of the one seated at the Throne. The twenty-four elders fall down to worship him that sat on the throne. Living representations (beasts) of all of creation witness with the elders to the Truth upon the Throne as their creator too in their continued and everlasting worship saying, "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come". The connection to the Cherubims of Genesis 3:24 which were living creatures to Ezekiel 10:20 "This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims." This chapter of Ezekiel helps to understand chapter 1 of Ezekiel where the beasts had the likeness of man, where man was the crown of God's creation in Christ Jesus.

    My meditation would lean towards that these Cherubims are the beasts and are at the four corners of the earth as borders to keep men ,because God so loved the world, on the straight and narrow way towards Salvation by the One on the Throne of God, Jesus Christ.

  • James - in Reply on Revelation 4
    I don't know about all of Earl's Comment. I have never heard that argument made, but very well could be some productive insight. I can tell you quiet simply that the four beast's are the four Cherubs that sit around the throne of God.They are mentioned multiple times throughout the Bible, including in exodus and such when Moses makes the mercy seat (a representation of God's throne). Ezekiel 10:14 & 1:10 (read the whole chapters) for Cherub detail. These 4 are not to be confused with the beasts that come later in Revelation. We know there was, at least, a 5th Cherub (Satan) who obviously fell from heaven.

    Each Cherub, and face, I have heard taught is a representation of each gospel. Matthew is the Lion, which went forth to the Jews. Focuses on the Lion of the tribe of Judah, gathered from the genealogy there of Jesus. A book that focuses on the Jewish Kingdom. Mark is the ox. A servant animal and focuses on Christ the servant. Luke the man. Focuses on Christ's physical, man qualities. Finally, John is the eagle. Its focus is on the spirit flying forth, the gospel being spread throughout the world. The difference being here that John answers the question of who Jesus is, where the other gospels focus on what Jesus is. Obviously there is much more to these explanations that can't be covered on a message board.

    That may be more information than you sought. I can't find my reference notes on Cherubs and hence I can't give you the additional verses referring to their characteristics. Maybe someone else would be so kind as to list them should they know of more.
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  • James - in Reply on Revelation 4
    I can assure you that the four beasts in Daniel 7 are not the same as the cherubs that sit around the throne of God in Chapter 4 of Revelation. They're wildly different beasts. If I inferred incorrectly your meaning and have fuddle your explanation, then I apologize and would request further information for clarification.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 4
    What can I say? I was going to bed. Sent the wrong link. My humble excuse
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Revelation 4
    Thami, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Revelation 4:7

    The four beast should be translated as the four LIVING creatures.

    These four living creatures are ALL OF CREATION:

    Man, Cattle, Fowl, and Beast.

    We can see this same thing explained when God made a covenant with CREATION never to destroy it again with water.

    Genesis 9:9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you (Noah) (MAN), and with your seed (MAN)

    after you.

    Genesis 9:10 And with every living creature (CREATION) that is with you (MAN), of the FOWL, of the CATTLE, and of every BEAST of the earth with you (MAN).........

    Revelation 4:7 And the first living creature (CREATION) was a lion (BEAST), and the second living creature (CREATION) was a calf (CATTLE), and the third living creature (CREATION) had a face as a man (MAN), and the fourth living creature (CREATION) was a flying eagle (FOWL).

    This same thing is in:

    Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they (CREATION) four had the face of a MAN, and the face of a lion (BEAST), on the right side: and they (CREATION) four had the face of an ox (CATTLE) on the left side, they (CREATION) four had the face of an eagle (FOWL).

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