Bible Discussion Thread

Who are the Elect the Chosen ? they are spirits the H.G is the Child of Promise . When Jesus mentioned the Babes and sucklings thats his Children that are gona be born in us via his seed the words of that book etc and they are Spirits that are gonna be born in us via his seed etc. Thats y John is saying in Jn 1 : 13 They are not born of flesh or blood or the will of any man but only by the will of God ( the seed of the sower etc ) which is the H.G. the Child of Promise . Whom shall he teach knowledge , whom shall he teach doctrine them that are weaned from the breasts and them that are drawn from the breasts which are baby Christ ,Thats y Jesus said outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise simply b/c they baby Gods. Rememerber God swore by his very self when he made that Promise of Christ being multiplied as the stars of heaven. And Jesus says to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods plural as the stars of heaven And its these that are the Elect the Chosen ones . The seed of Christ the Israel of God. And that y the new birth is so important via the seed of Christ . Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc thus we become a joint heir with the H.G. ( THE BRIDE THE CHURCH ETC ). Whom shall he teach doctrine whom shall he make understand knowledge them that are drawn from the breasts , the babes and sucklings that are gonna be born in us via his seed. He don't refer to himself as the bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity. thus the babes and sucklings. our new inner man, the H.G. Gods Gransons,( Jesus is the FATHER ) the Israel of God. The Children of Promise . Whosoever receiveth one such child in my Name receiveth ME. ( the Rapture ) Unless ya receive the KINGDOM OF GOD as a lil Child, you will in no wise enter there in. The Rapture

Rapture ? If your relating to the blonde song in the 80's , yes awesome tune , but rapture in the biblical sense , is non existent,. Ezekiel chapter 13 ,.. just like Apple ,.. that too is non existent in the biblical sense , an oh , Easter ? Yup that too is non existent in the biblical sense,.. yes it's there I know acts ,.. but use your strongs concordance, the word is pascal, meaning passova, there's reading,.. then there's reading an comprehension,.. I mean no harm,.. but a good King James Bible, an a dr strongs concordance,.. will go along way,..

I agree, many have thought for years that the church will be taken away pre-tribulation. Recent years churches have -some Churches have began to re-evaluate the rapture doctrine, some have decided the church will go throught tribulation. scripture clearly states at the last trump_ 1st Corinthians 15:52. The last trump according to Revelation 8:7 the mysteries of God shall be finished & 11:15 the kingdoms of this world are now become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ.

1st Thessalonians chapter 4:14 -18 states those that are alive and remain ... remain from what?

2nd Thessalonians 2:1 tells us that day shall not come by any means except there be a falling away first and that man of sin, the son of perdition be revealed.

Besides that until the 1800s(?) the rapture wasn't taught. Margaret McDonald and John Darby seemingly are responsible for it being taught.

Blessing

Precious Sheila, I have a four-part study in 'link' below, showing this, from Scripture:

PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure:

(A) God's TWO Different programs, Rightly Divided

(B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

Link

Thanks in advance for your prayerful/Careful review, and Please enjoy!

Thank you - I did read and as with the same teachings of the years past, I disagree with the pre-tribulation rapture. I didn't agree with it 30 years ago and it was taught in almost every church, and I still don't agree with it. The difference from then and now is more people of the church have changed their teachings & beliefs - many now believe the church will see the tribulation - and they too used the term God's Word rightly divided.

God Bless

I have both and use them. I'm sorry you are climbing in another way __ rather than go with Jesus in the: CAUGHT UP IN THE CLOUDS.

Sorry,.. miss spelled 2 words , it precedes ( meaning they've already risen to heaven, , an breath ,.. " breath of life " meaning spiritual body

Hi , yes you are mentioning scripture in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 , in vs 15 , it's points out that we that are alive , an remain alive until the 2nd coming, cannot perceive those who have already passed an rose to either side of heaven , an vs 16 & 17 , tell of those who are alive ( flesh ) when Jesus' 2nd coming arrives , shall step out of the flesh into our original spiritual body's , that word " clouds " in vs 17 is large group of people,. An that word " air " in vs 17 , is Brest of life , spiritual,.. please, check a good King James Bible, an a dr. Strongs concordance,.

Peace