Bible Discussion Thread

absence from this body present with the Lord

Can you tell me where it says this in scripture? Thanks!

Note that Paul didn't say that 100% of the time, when 100% of all people die, that instantly you are absent from the body and 100% of the time immediately with the Lord. Paul just said he would 'rather' be present with the Lord. I think some are reading things into that that aren't there and it seems contrary to other scripture about us all facing judgment. No one gets to skip judgment. Matthew 12:36, 2 Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:11-15 - People are all judged on the same day. Lots of people seen in the same place.

I doubt mass murderers like Hitler went to the Lord for example. I believe he is waiting to face judgment like everyone else.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says the dead will rise and those living will meet the Lord in the air. Would it make sense for someone to go heaven, then back to earth to rise up, then back again to heaven?

Also, when people die they 'sleep' as it says in. So, they are still with their bodies. If cremated, I still believe souls are just sleeping somewhere awaiting Jesus's return, then the day of judgment that says everyone must face. It doesn't say anyone gets to skip judgment day. God bless.

Daniel 12:2, Job 14:12, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

2 Corinthians 5:8 | View whole chapter

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

2 Corinthians 5:6

Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

1 Corinthians 5:3

For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

Precious 2nd Corinthians 5, Excellent verses about the 'dead In Christ' IMMEDIATELY "in His Presence - Scripture Also Has This:

Php 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die IS GAIN.

Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to Be WITH Christ; which is FAR BETTER:

I see no Scriptural 'Reason' to interpret death as 'soul [unconscious] sleep WITH the body in the ground,' some Even believing in 'NON existence' {crazy, eh?}, With Scriptural Confirmation of:

"souls that are Conscious and crying out" ( Revelation 6:9-11) Amen?

Please Be RichlyEncouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified!

( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =

Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)