Bible Discussion Thread

  • Karen Calhoun on Hebrews 5
    Hebrews 4:11 Makes it sound like one is in danger of losing salvation yet other scripture leads one to believe salvation can not be taken away! How do I explain this to unbeliever if question comes up?
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    Hi Karen.

    I would like to add to what Brother Jesse shared,

    Hebrews 4:11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

    "This is A CALL BEFORE HAND, not a call afterwards.". IT SAYS ENTER INTO HIS REST "LEST" YOU FALL. and that rest is to rest from your works, The only way you can fall is unbelief, and if you have unbelief you never entered in. The unbelief is NOT taking stock in HIS REST AND OUR REST HE HAS GIVEN US MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSES.

    If we refuses the finish work on the cross and insist in a works based salvation plan you have not joined him in his rest, and may fall after the same example of unbelief, ( Disbelieving in the rest we have when joined to Christ. )

    Hebrews 4:10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

    God bless.
  • Karen Calhoun - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    Thanks S. Spencer, this will be a simple way to explain to one without overwhelming them with so much scripture they may not understand!
  • Mishael - in Reply on Hebrews 5
    They have to make Jesus their Lord and Savior. He sheds his blood over our sins. They must have their names RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF LIFE. Priority number one.

    Revelation 20:12 - And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

    Revelation 3:5 - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    Revelation 21:27 - And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

    Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the BOOK OF LIFE was cast into the lake of fire.

    Revelation 3:1-6 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. (Read More...)

    Revelation 20:11-15 - And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

    Luke 10:20 - Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. (The Book of Life)

    Exodus 32:33 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

    Psalms 69:28 - Let them be blotted out of the book of the living (Life) and not be written with the righteous.

    Malachi 3:16 - Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Hebrews 5

    If the person is a non-believer and has already made up their mind and rejected the gospel message shared with them, you are under no obligation to explain anything to them. What we have is very precious. We have Christ. If a person does not want to hear the good news, then so be it. We are not to cast our pearls before the swine. Here's something that every believer should realize. We have got something very, very, precious. We don't have to prove anything to anybody. We are not under any pressure to meet any quota.

    Now, if the person is a believer, born of God's Spirit, and they believe they can lose their salvation, something you might ask them is who are they trusting in for their salvation. Are they trusting in Christ who has saved them, sealed them with His Spirit until the day of redemption, and who has promised He will never leave them? Or, are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? It's better to trust in the one who has saved us, the one who is keeping us saved by His own power, and the one who said He will never leave us nor forsake us!
  • Luis - in Reply on Hebrews 5 but how sad when this person is a relative that you love.

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