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  • Lauren on I Cor22 - 2 years ago
    I wonder if anyone can offer a commentary on I Cor.2:2 "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified." Thank you...
  • Dianne Mentzer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Pauls preaching was not with just words but also in demonstration of spiritual power in the name of Jesus Christ. He never argued with human intellect but displayed God given ability I.E. signs wonders and miracles. In context thats what its talking about
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Lauren.

    What Paul is saying here is a marvelous saying!

    This early in chapter we will have to go to chapter 1 to get the context.

    1 Corinthians 1:27-31.But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

    And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

    That no flesh should glory in his presence.

    But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

    That, according as it is written, ( HE THAT GLORIETH, LET HIM GLORY IN THE LORD)

    You noticed I highlighted the last phrase of Ch 1, It will help in understanding

    Ch 2:1-2.

    1 Corinthians 2:1-2. And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

    For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

    Paul was a Pharisee of Pharisees well educated and could work miracles,

    Paul set all that aside ministering to them, He didn't want his delivery to overshadow the message. " Christ and him crucified "

    so he determined that they know nothing of him!! Because wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: comes in the demonstration of the spirit and power!! NOT IN MANS WISDOM.

    1 Corinthians 2:4-5. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

    That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

    Paul wanted their faith to be grounded in the Power of God rather than elegance reasoning and world wisdom.

    I hope that helps.

    God bless.
  • Lauren - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you very much, it is really one of the most marvellous and powerful sections of scripture for me, and I

    feel drawn to sit with it often..... I like very much how you explained that Paul had miracle-working power, but he was determined that they know nothing of himself, only his message, "Christ and him crucified." And it's not a message the reasoning mind can wrap itself around easily! I just always wondered what "with demonstration of the Spirit and of power" meant. I mean, I never "felt" the power (no flesh shall glory in his presence) and often if I looked out at appearances, I did not see "signs and wonders." Still, the Holy Spirit keeps highlighting that phrase in me, in a way that draws me very powerfully, even if I don't see the "power" or the "signs." "I determine not to know any thing among you save Jesus Christ and him crucified...." I even went into my school job today, moving desks around, helping another teacher, doing outer things, but hearing it within..... I say, "Lord, what are you saying here?" and he is teaching me to be still, to listen and to behold. I know one thing, more and more He is asking me to bless all who come to me.... Thank you both for your responses. God Bless You....
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Lauren.

    There's a lesson to us all,

    The Power and virtue is in Christ distributed by the Spirit.

    We can't manifest it with our intellect or delivering anything what we " Think" is powerful by our delivery or shout something into motion whether it's bringing someone to Christ or running off demons, we're in the flesh when we think more of ourselves than what we ought.

    The only weapon we have is a sword

    Ephesians 6:17. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    And we use that sword to point to Christ and the cross in the manner Paul did with the Corinthians!

    John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    " There's our strength."

    1 Corinthians 2:4. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, BUT IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE SPIRIT AND OF POWER!:

    Here's another point to take notice in these verses. We know wisdom is made over unto us by way of the cross.

    And we know our redemption is by way of the cross.

    But we sometimes forget that our

    " Imputed Righteousness " and sanctification is by way of the cross.

    1 Corinthians 1:30. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, WHO OF GOD IS MADE UNTO US wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and SANCTIFICATION, and redemption:

    1 Corinthians 1:31. That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

    God bless.
  • Lauren - In Reply - 2 years ago
    S. Spencer, That is tremendous. Praise God..... to have absolutely no faith in our own righteousness, but to say,

    "I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus" in the face of every confusion or weakness. This prayer has helped me many, many times. God Bless!



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