Bible Discussion Thread

  • Kenneth Tipton on Romans 7
    I have gone so deep in sin that I am ashamed to ask the Lord Jesus to help me. I am so alone and afraid. The "Prodigal Son" would be ashamed to be seen with me and that only the least of my shame.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Romans 7
    Brother Kenneth, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

    What ever sin you see in yourself; GOD DOES NOT SEE.

    The WORKS of Christ REMOVED them as far as the east is from the west.

    WE ALL murdered Christ.

    His last words were Father FORGIVE THEM.

    Stand in that Forgiveness.

    Just give thanks for his WORKS OF SALVATION.

    Draw nigh to me and I will draw nigh to you.
  • Battleground part two - in Reply on Romans 7
    Satan's objective is to keep the mind "blind" to the Gospel. Satan has a vast assortment of weapons at his disposal. Remember that Satan has 6,000 years of experience with billions of people. You will not win any battle with Satan on your own, but you can be victorious through Christ. To accomplish his task, Satan looks to our flesh, our fallen nature, to build his kingdom on our lusts and weaknesses. Fallen nature is the nature of the flesh ruling. Satan rules in this realm, he keeps those under his influence as captives.

    As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the WAYS of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air ( Ephesians 2:1).

    Our relationship with Jesus Christ liberates us from Satan's power. We are now a part of the Lord's army, advancing the kingdom of God on enemy territory. This does not stop Satan from trying and as such, we must remain ON GUARD. He works through lust to capture us. The word for lust in Greek is epithumia, and means desire, craving, longing, and the desire for what is forbidden. Satan pursues our fallen nature through the mind, feeding our lusts with perceptions. Satan attacks three areas of our mind. They are lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life. For all that is in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-is not of the Father but is of the world ( 2 John 2:16).

    John 3. You must be born again to receive:

    Salvation through Jesus

    Forgiveness of sins: past, present, future

    Receive right standing with God the Father

    Confess that the Holy Spirit is your Teacher

    Tell someone that you have been born again.

    Stay in 1 Corinthians until you see what is available to you, through the Holy Spirit. Ask him to Help you with fleshly passions. Rid your house of objects of temptation. Everything. Stay in the New Testament until you are stronger. Talk to Jesus 24/7 He hears you!

  • S Spencer - in Reply on Romans 7
    Hi Kenneth.

    Amen to both comments given to you by Sacha and Adam.

    Turn from what ever that's hindering you and most important, Turn to the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Ask him to come into your life and guide you through his word.

    God bless you.
  • Lauren - in Reply on Romans 7
    the depth of your sin is not nearly as powerful as the Blood of Christ,

    shed for you. Only believe...... lift up Christ Jesus, not the power of

    your sin. Ask God to show you the riches of the Cross. God Bless.
  • Sacha - in Reply on Romans 7
    Dear Kenneth Tipton , please do not despair , you have not done one thing that some one else hasnt done before you did , you have not done any thing that God didnt see you do , he was with you the whole time , you cannot ever hide from him and thats a good thing , repent of you sins , open your heart to Him in prayer , dont attempt to hide anything from Him because you know you cant and dont attempt to hide anything from yourself , be honest , the truth is often awful but it must be faced , God loves the truth , talk to Him ,read the Bible ,this isnt about beating yourself up its about recognising your sinfull self and asking God to forgive your sins and help you to move on , surround yourself with other Christians ,keep away from the things and people that tempt you , God loves you ,always ,He will not EVER leave you ,reach out to Him and He will take your hand .
  • Adam - in Reply on Romans 7
    Dear Kenneth,

    It's a common trick by the enemy to persuade you into assuming your sin is too big for grace. That's false. The only unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the holy spirit- all others are absolutely forgivable. Paul used to murder Christians before being the biggest evangelist for Christ in world history and writing most books in the Bible. Moses killed someone. David had a twisted affair where he killed her husband. God can forgive you if you repent.

    Is Jesus's death on the cross not good enough for you? God already loved you so much He died for you- what else can He do? If you're a lost sheep all you need to do is call out to Jesus- give your heart to Him and He will find and rescue you. Don't believe the devil's lies. Fight back by reading God's word and staying in the truth- keeping your metaphorical armor of God on to fight against satan's lies. Then once you find your way back to Jesus, 'go and sin no more'. God bless you!
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    That was a beautiful post, especially the 1st line.
  • Lauren - in Reply
    Thank you Roy, glory to God... I really love that original comment by Kenneth. I'm not sure but he may be very close to the Kingdom of heaven. His comment reminded me of the "poor sinner" in Luke 18:13, "And the publican standing afar off would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner" and Jesus' amazing view of him, "I tell you, this man will go down to his house justified...." The longer I walk in Him, the more I glory in my own nothingness. It is an amazing grace, to know the depth of our own sin, that the glory of Christ may rest upon us. Only we must not fall for the temptation to look at ourselves and hate ourselves. That sad state can last years! But our eyes fully on Christ, the Holy Spirit reveals how the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin, and by faith Today we receive it. Sometimes when I go hiking, and up onto this high hill in the mountains I go, and I say these scriptures out loud to the wind, and shout them, and the truth of it sinks in. God Bless you!
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    You sound colorful & attentive, always seeking the Word. I enjoy looking at myself and hating what I've done, how I've embarrassed myself, or been weak along the way. My super-ego changes the outcomes of past events, and tear the buggars limb from limb. I love thinking about it over and over, a good 20 minute day dream. I even update the stories with whimsical twists. I don't kill anyone, no, cause I might miss them. It serves to make me humble, losing sleep with through sweet sweet anxiety. Sometimes when I'm feeling on top, right before bed, I'll call out my nightmares one by one, scream obscenities at them, and beat the living large intestine out of them. I can't get rid of my thoughts, they always come back bandaged up, like luggage.

    There must be a way of thinking to sort my lifetimes out, bringing happiness by default.
  • Lauren - in Reply
    It is possible I read your comment incorrectly. Are you a born-again believer, doing battle with the devil, and shouting obscenities? Are you casting out demons in the name of Jesus? Or is your way of doing "battle" purely fleshly? Say some more, in case I'm wrong.... Sorting out your lifetimes / super-ego changing past events . . . . sounds New Agey brother. Victory is in the finished work of Christ on the Cross (resulting in our peace) not in shouting obscenities

    and being overtaken by our dominant thoughts.
  • Lauren - in Reply
    Hi Roy, blessings and peace to you in the Lord Jesus Christ. . . . A scripture that Mishael used recently comes to mind: Philippians 3:3 "For we are the circumcision which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." In Christ, anxiety is not sweet, it is mental flesh.... nightmares are to be cast out, and obscenities are from Satan's mouth. What are you talking about? We are to test the spirits. The Holy Spirit always speaks Peace: Peace I leave with you, My peace I give unto you; not as the world gives, give I unto you.
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    I'm doing none of that troublesome stuff you proposed. It was a cryptic post dedicated to all the cryptic Bible scriptures I pondered over. That's my sense of humor. Did you know Bob Dylan spoke in parables in "Infidels", well he did. I figure people aren't going to understand me anyway, so let 'em be really confused by mingled and strained truth. I embellish the ordinary, like Jimmy Swaggart, with tears streaming down his face. Saying in his crybaby voice: "I have sinned against you, Lord. I have fallen from my lofty perch." Hahaha ( Ezekiel 34)

    It's analogous to how I generalize the human condition, and not delivered in a self-pitying, groveling, I need help way. Kinda funny how I tell my bad memories to F off. Others wear a veil, while I celebrate the painful absurdities of life head on, the double-crosses, and say 'what's next?' If I had an aggressive form of cancer, I'd find a way to phrase it to make you envious of me, knowing your suffering continues. Eric Clapton said "one day the bottom will drop out", but I think it's the sky that will drop out.
  • Lauren in response to Roy - in Reply
    hahaha..... now I get it.... I just needed a bit of clarification. Also, thanks for

    shooting straight and pinning all false piety do-goodism to the target. I took bow

    and arrow lessons last summer, I love shooting those things! I like the idea of

    shooting on a horse.... like a Mongolian warrior.... in Christ! You know, as a lady,

    I am not permitted by Christian culture to say "F off." But let me tell you, I say it

    in private to sneaky devils who try to take advantage of me. I am dead to culture,

    and culture is dead to me. At one point I thought, "Maybe I am not a Christian?"

    because how I lived and thought was so far off from so many people who go by

    Christian. I would be cast out of the temple. Hmmm. I would be in good company.

    I will re-read your earlier post. I hope you keep writing in.

    And now go listen to Bob Dylan's Infidels. Poet prophet.
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    I don't say The F word out loud (often), it's too vulgar, but that voice in my head that's been driving my thoughts every waking hour of the say does. Any minute irregularity will generate internal vulgarities, usually in the form of a question. Other times, I'll be in Ralphs shopping, when a new flashy item will trigger a playful cursing response, Like: how much is this mf'er? It's as though Richard Pryor has jumped in my head, and I'm totally entertained by it. It's literally an endless process, me and that self righteous voice I house. If that voice is part of my soul, God help me. Consequently, when I've said F to someone in real life, I've always paid for it, and felt bad.

    I see my Christian trespasses like a closet full of tainted clothes and grim artifacts of my dirty deeds done dirt cheap. I say, "look at all the errors I made that Christ covered me for believing on Him and His Holy Family".

    Bob Dylan has 4 Gospel albums from late 70's to early 80's. When the 4th album came out, the music world announced that Dylan was back from his Religious kick, only to find out that "Infidels" was foreign to them because the songs were Biblical and written in parables. On YouTube he has a song called "You gotta serve somebody", about Joshua 24:15. It won a 1979 Grammy.
  • Garnishing our Bodies and Minds with Bible - in Reply
    Nice to see you in here. Some of us, when we believers on Jesus came into the kingdom upside down, beat up by life, living large and wide, closets stuffed full of secrets, God already knows about :D He sent his spirit of adoption to you and now God is your Father. He rejoices in you. His are the arms that will love you into wellness. You may wander away from Him, but he's got your back. You're not alone. You have a guardian angel who helps you out. Just say Lord I need an extra pair of hands right now. Thank you.

    I have friends that are back from military service, which frequently use F bombs because that's how they talk on the battle fields. It's learned, and you can unlearn it too. There are "unclean" spirits that help that along. They're attracted to it. You can send them into outer darkness at any time. Here's the story to illustrate that.

    Matthew 12

    43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

    44 Then he saith, I will return into (you) my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. (Jesus adopted you)

    45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    You didn't fill up your mind with the Bible after God cleaned you up. We have gates: the eye gate, the mouth gate, and the ear gate. If we have no Bible in us, we're filling up on visual images that are sexual, violent, anti-Christlike or unclean speech, swear the mouth gate lets it out. The unclean demon thinks it's ok to invade you again; that he still has a home. He comes back in and brings reinforcements.

    Get loud and order them into dry places in outer darkness; do not return by the authority in the name of Jesus. Those F bombs will stop as you fill up on the New Testament. Love U
  • Lauren - in Reply
    Roy, you really got me laughing with the Richard Pryor and Jimmy Swaggart thing....

    I love that Dylan song, "You Gotta Serve Somebody." I've been listening to Infidels,

    it's awesome.

    Do you think there was a funny person in the Bible? I would love it if you could point one out.

    in the Old Testament?
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    The Bible is a serious book that talks of laughter, but leaves the content up to us. For me, the funniest line in the Bible belongs to God.

    ( Ezekiel 21:9-10)

    9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the LORD; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:

    10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.

    God sets it up the slaughter in vs 9, then says, 'should we laugh at your misfortune', and (it) scorns Jesus as every tree, referencing the crucification. The sarcasm is epic. If I am accurate in my assessment, then that is funny.
  • Lauren - in Reply

    could you say more of how you interpret the second part

    of verse 10?

    Is it something like, despising the shame, as mankind crucifies

    the Son of God anew? God holding men in derision as he draws

    the sword from the sheath? Men eating, drinking,

    and being merry in mirth, whistling by the graveyard, as

    this judgement is upon them?

    I did find it interesting that "slaughter" and "laughter" differ only in one letter.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    Roy 316 wrote: >>>The Bible is a serious book that talks of laughter, but leaves the content up to us. For me, the funniest line in the Bible belongs to God.
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    "could you say more of how you interpret the second part of verse 10?"

    God is hating on every tree because it reminds Him of the crucifixion of His son.
  • Roy 316 - in Reply

    You mention Israel's punishment for disobedience. According to Deuteronomy 26, Israel was punished by God 7 times (7 x 360 day per yr = 2,520 years). Here's the breakdown for both houses:

    1) The house of Israel was taken into captivity by Assyria in 721 BC + 2,520 years = 1,799 as Ephraim became the British empire, and America (Manasseh) would soon come out of his twin brother. The lead tribes of the house of Israel (Ephraim, Manasseh, sons of Joseph) are the birthright people (land, wealth) per their ( Genesis 48) cross-handed blessing.

    2) Next, the house of Judah was taken captive to Babylon in 604 BC +2,520 years = 1917 Balfour Declaration, signed to the hour, where Britain (Japheth born Rothschild) bought the false Ashkenazi Khazar Jews a home on land they hadn't claim to. They are supplanters of a massive conversion to Judaism. Genesis (10:2-3) Japheth is the grandson of Ashkenazim, today's convert Jew, who are NOT Semitic, or genetically connected to Abraham, Issac, Jacob, or Judah. ( Genesis 9:27) God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

    It is a clear pattern, according to their Genesis 48 blessing, that Ephraim and Manasseh are Briton and US respectively. Even though Manasseh was born first, his younger brother (British isles) came first, and why Jacob crossed his hands over the 2 boys heads.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    Dear Roy, the people of Britsh empire and America have nothing to do with any tribe of Israel, unfortunatelly you believe in satanic lies as the theory you posted to deceive the readers in this Christian site.

    What you have posted in your devilish message, it is called as a cunningly devised fable by the Word of our Almighty GOD - the Word is GOD, understand? - , and the evil spirit that inspired your message will be cast down into the botomless pit in this current time. You know who is the father of the lie, then read what JESUS said in John 8:v.44-45.
  • Robert Necomb - in Reply

    I know not what you are talking about when you say "EVIL". Evil for suggesting the UK/US are the lead tribes of house of Israel? What makes you so aggressive? It sounds like in your youth you had a rough time being beaten down by the British crown, and you are angry as to who God raised up.

    You need to explain your rationale against the house of Israel not being US/UK. Migration is how ancient Israel evolved into modern day Israel; they changed their identity, they don't know who they are.

    Please tell me where these northern, Israelite tribes landed. Where did the birthright people migrate to, if not the British isles, then what became of them and God's promise to them in Gen 48? Perhaps the 2 end-time antichrists can assist you with the answer.
  • OSEAS - in Reply
    GOD calls EVIL not me.

    What prevails is the Word of GOD,not your cunningly devised fables. I'm a disciple of JESUS, and you?They murdered JESUS-GOD,remember?What does the Word of GOD say?

    Dialogue between Jews and JESUS:Jo.8:v.33-43

    Jews said:-We be Abraham's seed,... John 8:33KJV

    - JESUS said: - I know that ye are Abraham's seed... John 8:v.37 (Positive)

    Jews said: - Abraham is our father.... John 8:v.39

    - JESUS said:- If ye were Abraham's children... John 8:v.39 (If?? hum!)

    Jews said: - We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:v.41

    - JESUS said: - If God were your Father... John 8:v.42- (If?? hum!)

    - JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? Ye are of your father the Devil..., John 8:43-44

    Do you believe in JESUS, Necomb? Even He said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil..., According JESUS, the origin of the Jews comes from the garden of Eden, they are the fallen angels which rebelled against God following their father, the Devil, and going after strange flesh because they kept no their first angelical estate. Jude 1:6 - The angels which kept not their first estate...GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of THIS great day.

    Why did JESUS call the Jews of serpents? It is because they are sons of the old serpent, called the Devil, now red Dragon. Matt.23:33-35.

    33 -Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    What is the mystery JESUS links the Jews to the murder of Abel, that upon the Jews may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?
  • Darlene P - in Reply
    Abraham was the beginning of the Jewish nation!
  • Manuel - in Reply
    I read that you said there are 2 consecutive anti christs each having 3 years and a day of power.

    How come there are 2 anti christs? Are you counting the false prophet as anti christ? Where's the 42 months rule of anti christ?

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