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  • Moyinoluwa Oni on Genesis 28 - 2 years ago
    What is the story
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 28 - 2 years ago
    Hi Moyinoluwa.

    It's a lot to the Jacob and Essau than what meets the Eye, ( Highly Spiritual.)

    For lack of better terms here is the root of the story behind them.

    Genesis 25:23. And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

    Romans 9:11-13. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF GOD ACCORDING TO ELECTION MIGHT STAND, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

    It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

    As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

    Jacob had a spiritual discernment that Esau did not have. Esau was a man of the flesh and did not care for spiritual things. In fact, he so discounted his birthright that he traded it to Jacob for a bowl of soup!

    These 2 brothers not only represents 2 nations but also spiritually God's elected way " His purpose GRACE "= ( JACOB )

    ESAU represents man's self righteousness and perhaps worldliness, flesh. thinking his inheritance is earned by being born 1st.. BUT GODS WAY BEING 1ST BORN DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE BIRTH RIGHT. IT'S THE SECOND BIRTH THAT IS ALL IMPORTANT!!

    All through the scripture you see this pattern, 1st Adam 2nd Adam, Ephraim and Manassah, And ourselves Being born again. This is one of many Allegories in the Bible.

    GOD'S ELECTED WAY IS GRACE.

    Romans 9:11. For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand,

    ( NOT OF WORKS, )

    but of him that calleth.

    God bless.
  • The WAR Between Esau descendants and Jacobs descendants - In Reply on Genesis 28 - 2 years ago
    Genesis 25-27. Tells the story of Esau and Jacob. Jacob and Rebekah worked together to cheat Esau out of his birthright as elder son. Esau made it easy because he'd rather have a bowl of stew than his birthright. He only fought for it when he saw it given to Jacob.

    It seems wrong but Esau had no regard for those things until he realized what He had done. It says God HATED Esau for the treachery. This doesn't sanction cheating and treachery. It teaches that when God gives you a blessing, don't throw it away on something temporal.

    Esau left Jewish culture and married into other culture and religion. However, to this very day, Esau is still trying to get his blessing away from Jacob. (God changed Jacobs name to Israel.

    The wars in the Mid-East today, are still about the Covenants God made with Abraham and descendant of Abraham's wife SARAH. Ishmael received his own blessing from God. ( Genesis 15 & forward). God clearly explained borders inside the Covenant.



    Ishmaels descendants (Palestinians) want everything God gave Israel through the Abrahamic Covenant. Jews have returned to Israel and now the land (the Fig Tree Jesus spoke of), is fertile and blooming. This is prophesy being fulfilled NOW. It's no secret. google it. I followed Esaus descendants to the eastern lands of Israel: a difficult study.

    The Palestinians are making deals with Russia; Russia is making deals with China. Search CHINA in the SEARCH engine. 3 scriptures say the Pestilences origins are China and mid-east lands. You gotta use ancient maps with the ancient country names on it.

    Israel needs water and is building a pipeline to get it (search news). All countries are against it. (In Mediterranean). Do you comprehend NOW how the final wars will be fought?

    If you aren't digging through foreign nation News, you will be clueless why are all these wars being rumored. Matthew 24.

    This is a blood war that has been brewing since God Covenanted with Abraham; changed Jacobs name.
  • Jason Noble - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Mishael,

    Look what happens to Jacob and Esau when they are all grown up, through the centuries. The last time these two boys met up was on the trail in Genesis 33. Jacob was afraid that Esau would kill him for stealing his birthright, but they exchanged gifts and parted ways.

    But now, in (Obadiah) we see that Esau (Gog) has obliterated Jacob (Israel) so much so that God is extra angry at Esau. This is the day of the Lord battle aftermath, similar to ( Isaiah 24). We see parallels between the beast & Babylon, and king of north vs king of south allegories. The Bible will tell you the same thing, several different ways to round off your wisdom. Keep reading.



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