Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Bridget Brinson on Exodus 15
    Which day of the week does the BIBLE say is the Sabbath?
  • When is Sabbath - in Reply on Exodus 15
    When religious leaders accused JESUS of breaking the Sabbath because his disciples plucked some grain and ate it as they walked through a field, he said: "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath" ( Mark 2:27-28)

    Constantine (Roman) set Sabbath on Sunday.

    Jewish tradition, Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday, and is attended on Saturday.

    My advise: Google this and read all the opinions. My choice is what Jesus said above.
  • Dawn - in Reply on Exodus 15
    The sabbath falls according to the moon cycles (gods time)

    The moon cycles four times a month.

    Sometimes sabbath day is on Sunday, sometimes on Saturday, occasionally Friday
  • Bridget Brinson - in Reply on Exodus 15
    God, my Bible, says the seventh day is the Sabbath. Exodus 20:10.

    Saturday, or the seventh day in the weekly cycle, is the only day in all of scripture designated using the term Sabbath.

    Constantine did think he changed the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 ... .and think to change times and laws. Because he thought doesn't mean he changed it. On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.

    In Malachi 3:6, God says I am God I change not. Did God change the Sabbath? You admit that Constantine changed the Sabbath or thinks he did because so many people follow his supposed change.

    Acts 5:29 in my bible says we ought to obey God rather than man, this includes Constantine, kings, presidents, emperors, popes, etc.

    God who is omniscient, gave the days numbers which are constant. Sabbath is the seventh day in over 100 languages.



    No wonder the world is in mass confusion. A four year old can count from one to seven. Its not rocket science. Look at your standard every day calendar, Start with the first day count seven.

    My prayer is that we all come to unity on God's word, Not on my or your opinion.

    I am praying that all will believe the wisest mind in the universe GOD, JESUS Christ, THE HOLY GHOST.

    Will be praying for you all.
  • Rod - in Reply on Exodus 15
    Hi Bridget,

    When you read the whole chapter of Malachi 3, nowhere is the word Sabbath mentioned, it's talking about Jesus return and the fight of good against evil and the Lord's words doesn't change Malachi 3:2 "But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:"

    just some scripture to support that whether we practice our common faith on a Saturday or Sunday it really doesn't matter, but what does matter is that we repent and believe in the salvation of the cross and that Jesus died for all who believe.

    Mark 2:24-28 "And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

    Colossians 2:13-19

    13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    15 having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
  • Efazzi - in Reply on Exodus 15
    The Sabbath was made for "MAN" .. Quit trying to put your religious bent into that. Just rest one day a week. Some people work on a Sat or Sunday. Is it good to do good on a Sabbath. Jesus answered that !

    People were instructed to let portions of there land rest on the 7th year. You have to ask yourself why ???? Thus the Sabbath is for us. To rest, to replenish. Etc.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Exodus 15
    Hi Bridget,

    There is no need to reply to this comment. As I would like you see your replies to brothers Michael and Earl's comments to your post.

    I just wanted to address your comment on "no wonder the world is in mass confusion". I will just say that it is not, in my insight, just because people are not keeping "Saturday" Sabbath days. Which as Earl stated would be a lot of stuff we are no longer commanded to do anymore. To me the world falling into the state we're in, and I don't see it getting better, is mainly of how ungodly people have become. Which is a lot of stuff that I'm not going to try to fit in this post.

    Which is just a very simple statement from me. Only God knows everything about everything. Keep your faith and trust in our Lord Jesus Christ. As you stated Malachi 3:6 in that God doesn't change. Like Hebrews 13:8.

    God Bless.
  • Michael - in Reply on Exodus 15
    Hello Bridget,

    Thank you for your comments.

    You quoted Exodus 20:10 to say that we must observe the sabbath. However, you quoted from the Old Testament given to the ancient nation of Israel. Could you provide me a verse from the New Testament which commands the Church to keep the Sabbath? If not, why not? Why would the Apostles never instruct or remind the Christian Church to keep the sabbath if it was that important?

    You also quoted Malachi 2:6 that God never changes. But, then why did God change the law of circumcision? The Old Testament said you must be circumcised - a commandment of God at Leviticus 12:3. But, in the New Testament, we are told that circumcision is not necessary. See Galatians 5:2. Also, why does Hebrews 7:12 say the the priesthood was changed? I thought you said that God never changes. In the Old Testament, the priesthood was Levitical but in the New Testament, the priesthood is according to the order of Mechizedek - another change of God. See Hebrews 7:11.

    The Apostle Paul, at Galatians 4:10, scolds the Galatians for keeping the Old Testament rituals. The brackets are mine.

    Galatians 4:10

    "Ye observe (sabbath) days, and (lunar) months, and (festivals) times, and (sabbatical) years."

    No wonder the Apostle Paul asks the question at:

    Galatians 4:21 "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the (Mosaic Old Testament) law, do ye not hear the law?"

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    I welcome your comments, Bridget.

    Good day.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Exodus 15
    Bridget, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You quoted thatwe must keep Exodus 20:10

    Do you keep:

    Leviticus 25:4

    Leviticus 23:11

    Leviticus 23:15

    Leviticus 23:16

    Leviticus 23:24

    Leviticus 23:32

    Leviticus 23:39

    Exodus 35:3

    Leviticus 16:29-32

    Numbers 28:10

    Exodus 31:14

    Numbers 28:9

    These are ALL SABBATHS
  • Bridget Brinson - in Reply on Exodus 15
    I have been trying to reply to Michael but get this every time.

    This site can't be reached wwwkingjamesbibleonline.org took too long to respond.

    Try:

    Checking the connection

    Checking the proxy and the firewall

    Running Windows Network Diagnostics

    ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

    I was a Sunday keeper once so I am familiar with all of these excuses.

    To cut to the chase I should ask that I be provided with one bible text that calls Sunday the Sabbath. Just 1.

    Really, it is a matter of one's relationship to Christ. God is so wise he anticipated all of these reasons not to do as he commanded (not suggested).

    John 14:15

    If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    1John 2:3

    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    1 John 2:4

    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    You see the Sabbath is one of the commandments.

    Lots of people call themselves Christian but they do not meet the above criteria. God knew it.

    Matthew7:21-23

    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name...

    Matthew 4:4

    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    Does it say by the New Testament only??

    There is safety in sticking to what is written in God's word.

    Truth can bear examination my mother taught me.

    Remember that God is omniscient. We are not smarter than He is.

    Trust God he will not lead you astray. Forget your opinion or my opinion and lean not to your understanding,

    I am busy, in the mean time I will refer you to Amazing Facts by Doug Batchelor where these questions are addressed and TV station 3ABN.

    When I am available I will come back to this discussion but please accept above in the mean time.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Exodus 15
    Hi Bridget,

    Just to give a little reply to your comment. Do you believe we are still under the Old Covenant?

    If you believe we are to live by every word in the Bible, Old Testament also, this would mean to still be sacrificing animals for your sins? Or stoning people and putting them to death for certain things? Maybe circumcising of the foreskin of the flesh?

    Maybe you mean this is only about the Sabbath being on "saturday"? The Ten Commandments. I really see no problem with that. If people want to keep the "saturday" Sabbath great. Lots of unbelieving Jews, of Jesus Christ, do also. Who stay away from the New Testament.

    We are under a New Covenant. This does not mean throw away the Old Testament. There is still much wisdom in the Old Testament. Though if you ONLY read the Old Testament you will have a vail over you as in 2 Corinthians 3:11-16. I very much enjoy reading the Old Testament. Though having the Spirit of Christ to guide me I can feel what is good and still applicable and things that are done away with say in the laws in the Torah. As nine out of the Ten Commandments are in the New Testament and many of the Mitzvot laws are still moral and good. Though now we in Christ are to be led by the Spirit, by grace, not every word of the law. We have God's law on our hearts. Which in one word is Love. Turn from evil and do good. Psalms 37:27, 1 Peter 3:11.

    Let us stay focused on following Christ with a pure heart. Be Holy 1 Peter 1:16.

    Like I've sated in a post before. I strive to keep every day Holy not just one a week. Always retaining God in my thoughts and living for Him not myself. Romans 6:11-14.

    Just like you stated Trust God and He will not lead you astray. Proverbs 3:5-6.

    Praise God He hath sent us His Son as His free gift of Salvation. The only way to the Father is through the Son. Jesus Christ our Lord.

    God Bless and have a wonderful day.



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