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  • Richard in Christ on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    2 Esdras 2:35-47 Be ready to the reward of the Kingdom, for the everlasting light shall shine upon you for evermore.

    Flee the shadow of this world, receive the joyfulness of your glory: I testify my Saviour openly.

    O receive the gift that is given you, and be glad, giving thanks unto him that hath led you to the Heavenly Kingdom.

    Arise up and stand, behold the number of those that be sealed in the feast of the Lord;

    Which are departed from the shadow of the world, and have received glorious garments of the Lord.

    Take thy number, O Sion, and shut up those of thine that are clothed in white, which have fulfilled the law of the Lord.

    The number of thy children, whom thou longedst for, is fulfilled: beseech the power of the Lord, that thy people, which have been called from the beginning, may be hallowed.

    I Esdras saw upon the mount Sion a great people, whom I could not number, and they all praised the Lord with songs.

    And in the midst of them there was a young Man of a high stature, taller than all the rest, and upon every one of their heads He set crowns, and was more exalted; which I marvelled at greatly.

    So I asked the angel, and said, Sir, what are these?

    He answered and said unto me, These be they that have put off the mortal clothing, and put on the immortal, and have confessed the name of God: now are they crowned, and receive palms.

    Then said I unto the angel, What young person is it that crowneth them, and giveth them palms in their hands?

    So he answered and said unto me, It is the Son of God, whom they have confessed in the world. Then began I greatly to commend them that stood so stiffly for the name of the Lord.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    Praise God!
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    Amen my sister! Just coming across that vision from Esdras the other night. It also parallels with John's vision in Revelation 7:9-10.

    Peace and Blessing be upon you.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    Richard, That is an interesting phrase from Revelation 7:9-10, "Salvation to our God, which sitteth upon the throne...." as we almost exclusively hear of "salvation for sinners," not to our God. Any comment? Thank you for all you share!

    Many Blessings, Lauren
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Lauren,

    I'd be happy to look into that for you. As I understand how it kind of looks a little backwards in that it is us who need Salvation not God.

    First I looked in to the Greek word for Salvation. It is the word "soteria" G4991 with some definitions of "deliverance, preservation, safety, salvation , rescue". That checked out. As there was one variation between Textus Receptus versions I'll post at the end which didn't really answer anything as the differences are minor.

    I believe I found why the verse is a little off in the translation. I found this by going over the "article or adverb" right after the word Salvation. As the translation from Greek to English removes a lot of the adverbs and puts them all together. What I found was the one adverb G3588 used five times in the Greek, though only twice in English as "the", was actually three different Greek words in this one verse of Revelation 7:10. So using a translator I took that article right after Salvation and what I got was "of the". That gave me the answer we were looking for as Salvation "of" the one sitting upon the throne. Is what it should be and it is correct in the Greek. That's the best I could do as you noted another little flaw in the translation. Really no big deal as we know Salvation is of God not "to" Him. Though as you noticed It could be confusing to some.

    The one variant of the Textus Receptus that did not fully support this verse is the Stephanus. It reads "Salvation to him which sitteth upon the throne of our God, even unto the Lamb" instead of "Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb." Though it still uses "Salvation to him" so it has the same little flaw.

    That was a very good question Lauren and I always enjoy looking over the Scriptures to find details.

    God Bless.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    That is amazing, that a tiny word can change a whole meaning. Thank you so much, your work and research

    has handed me a gem today. What searchless riches are ours in the WORD. And yet, "seek and ye shall find"

    even greater riches! May the Lord bless you today for your efforts..... I feel such joy at His Kingdom expanding!
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    God Bless you Lauren for your kind reply. It truly gives me joy to help anyone with the Holy Scriptures if I am able. All glory to the Lord as the little ability I have is a Blessing from Him.

    Just a couple verses to note for you with Salvation of the Lord:

    Jonah 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

    Luke 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

    Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

    Hebrews 5:7-9 Who in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared;

    Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered;

    And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him;

    2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

    Have a wonderful Blessed day Lauren.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 2 years ago
    Praise God, for this amazing knowledge, and these wonderful verses. What a blessing....

    Lately, and more and more, the Scripture is like pure nourishment to me. Thank you Richard!



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