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  • Penny Bell on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    What is your opinion regarding the term "legion" as specified in this chapter. I have looked up the term and it states that a legion at the time was 5 to 6 thousand. I read here that 2 thousand swine perished in the sea. I have noticed this as many times as I have read this chapter that I firmly after reading it again, this poor man had at least 2000 demons in him. While that may seem impossible to some, why would so many have perished in the sea if the demons had not taken them there? It's not important in the over all scheme of things but I do find it an interesting discussion. thanks for your imput.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    Penny Bell,

    I typed six thousand in my post. I am not sure why this website changed it to six. But where you see 6 soldiers, it is supposed to read six thousand soldiers. Also, it should read six thousand demons, not six. Maybe the website didn't like the comma after the six with three zeros, I'm not sure? Anyways, I wanted to point that out because I do not want to be misleading on the word legion.
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    I noticed that also on a post Jesse. When I posted about certain numbers of words changed, or deleted, from the Bible it went from thousands to just the single digit. It seems the comma does that.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    Thanks, Richard,

    I'll have to remember not to put the comma in when using numbers. One time I had typed a person's name correctly at the beginning of a reply, and before I hit the submit button, it changed the name to something else. I can't remember who I was responding to but it changed the name to Hillary, which wasn't even close to the person's name nor what I typed. That would have been embarrassing!
  • Chris - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    That was a timely clarification brother. I thought to myself, 'surely this can't be our dear brother Jesse writing the figure 6 instead of the actual greater number'. And that was interesting to note that those swine were raised primarily for devilish sacrifices & the connection with the demons desiring to inhabit the swine. Thank you.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    Thanks, Chris,

    It's interesting about Gadara being the center of pagan and demonic worship in that region. It was the most active place in the inhabitable world back then for demonic activity and worship. In their demon worship, they sacrificed pigs. I used to wonder why those pigs were there.

    The demonic man cutting himself with stones is interesting. He wasn't just doing that because he was under a demonic spirit and trying to destroy himself. That was part of the pagan worship. You cut yourself, and you offer the blood to the demons. What an awful circumstance!

    I would say that this is in the category of this man can't help himself. And Mark has told us that nobody else can help him either. It is beyond human ability. But it seems that the demons in this man cause him to come and just fall right before Jesus. The demons weren't worshipping. They were acknowledging that they were in the presence of God.

    The confession of the demon speaking through the man in Mark 5:7, "What have we to do with you?" In other words, we have nothing in common! Notice the confession: "Jesus, thou Son of the most high God." They make the proper confession. They confess the truth about who Jesus is, they know who He is, but it doesn't save them!

    Verse 10, the demon appealed to Jesus not to send them away out of the country because it was the center of demonic activity and they didn't want to go anywhere else. This is where all the action is. The demon didn't want to leave. He says "Don't send us out of the country!"

    These people that lost their whole herd of swine come and see the man that was possessed who is now in his right mind. Mark 5:15 says they were afraid. You can see why. They weren't afraid because of what they saw. They weren't real happy about all this "deliverance" going on. They were afraid because of what's going to happen to their demon worship? They were afraid of Jesus because Verse 17 says they appealed to Jesus to depart from their coasts. Very interesting!
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 5 - 3 years ago
    Penny Bell,

    A legion refers to 6,000 soldiers. This man in Mark Chapter 5 had 6,000 demons. And it was those demons that asked that if Jesus was to cast them out of the man that they would be allowed to enter into the herd of swine.

    Now here is something interesting to know. These are a special kind of pig. They raised these pigs, and they were all black pigs, and they used them for demonic sacrifice.



    If you study through the history of the Jews, you'll find that down through the history, when Antiochus Epiphanies came in and actually desecrated, or defiled the temple, he sacrificed a pig on the altar.



    Leviticus Chapter 7 Verse 11 says that the pig is unclean to the Jews. But these are not Jews. These are Gentiles, and they are demon worshipers. And they raised these pigs for their worship.

    So it is interesting and it sort of gives you an indication as to why these demons would ask permission to enter those pigs, and why Jesus allowed it!



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