Bible Discussion Thread

  • Joanne Jones on Romans 1
    Where can I find information in the bible about killing others to prorect yourself and family?

    Thou shall not kill is a commandment, so then is it acceptable to kill in certain situations? JJ
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Romans 1
    It would not be very loving to stand back and allow some evil brute to savage your precious ones:

    If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;

    If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? (Proverbs 24:11-12)
  • Carleton - in Reply on Romans 1
    Hello Benito, Likely there have been "evil brutes" for a long time already. I am re-posting a point of a confession of faith from 1632 from Christians that suffered torture and death at the hands of the Roman Church, my children are in part blood decedents of the same.

    14. Of Revenge

    "As regards revenge, that is to oppose an enemy with the sword, we believe and confess that tha Lord Christ has forbidden and set aside to His disciples and followers all revenge and retaliation, and commanded them to render to no one evil for evil, or cursing for cursing, but to put the sword into the sheath, or, as the prophets have predicted, to beat the swords into ploughshares. Matthew 5:39 ; Matthew 5:44 ; Romans 12:14 ; 1 Peter 3:9 ; Isaiah 2:4 ; Micah 4:3.

    From this we understand that therefore, and according to His example, we must not inflict pain, harm, or sorrow upon anyone, but seek the highest welfare and salvation of all men, and even if necessity requires it, flee for the Lord's sake from one city or country into another, and suffer the spoiling of our goods; that we must not harm anyone, and when smitten, rather turn the other cheek also, than to revenge or retaliate.

    And moreover, that we must pray for our enemies, feed and refresh them whenever they are hungry or thirsty, and convince them by well doing, and overcome all ignorance. Romans 12:19-20

    Finally, that we must do good and commend ourselves to every man's conscience; and, according to the law of Christ, do unto others that which we would have others do into us". Matthew 7:12
  • Carleton - in Reply on Romans 1
    Hello again Bendito, I am sorry that I misspelled your name by accident.

  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - in Reply on Romans 1
    To Joanne Jones. People will tell you its ok to kill in certain situations but, you quoted what God said about it. Thou shalt not kill, no exceptions there. Matthew 5:39, Romans 12:17, Romans 12:21. These scriptures speak against self-defense and so do these; 1 Thessalonians 5:15, (See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.) to be a Christian is to be Christ like hear is what Jesus did, (1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

    1 Peter 3:9

    Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. I will take Gods Word over mans anytime, God bless and always listen to your heart because Jesus will never lead you wrong.
  • Carleton - in Reply on Romans 1
    This is true Pastor! As Christians, we should not try to hurt by words or the law or any kind of violence in self defense, because He loved us first. Stay true. "Humility is Thou Secret Vale".



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