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  • Judy on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    My husband was never circumcised and has just died at 80 years old. Does that mean he is

    cut off from God?
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    Hello Judy,

    Just to add a couple verses to what Mishael posted for you about the real circumcision being of the heart. Not the flesh.

    Romans 2: 25-29 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

    26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

    27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

    28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

    29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
  • LISA WHITE - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    God is concerned with our heart being circumcised. A mans genitals being circumcised is not really the same thing as his heart before God. That is something his parents had done and that is fine but he became a man with a heart either for or against God. I hope you gain the understanding you are looking for.
  • Ron - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    Judy my heart goes out to you for your loss. Read Acts 15 and I believe what Peter says will take that burden off of your heart. May the Lord fill the emptiness and peace and fond memories fill your days. God bless, Ron
  • Bottom Line on Circumcision COLOSSIANS 2 - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    Judy, Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day of his life. It's Jewish custom that has been passed down through time to set the Jewish people apart from Gentiles.

    A whole lot is taught on this by Paul mostly in the New Testament. The Jews wanted the Gentiles to be circumcised; Paul stopped that thought. He says for us to be circumcised IN OUR HEARTS.

    Colossians Chapter 2

    9 For in Jesus dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

    11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made WITHOUT hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

    12 Buried with Jesus in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the FAITH of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    This is the bottom line on circumcision. Christians/Gentiles do not need to be circumcised to prove their faith in Jesus. We must be born again.

    We are blown around like a lot of leaves until we get into reading Gods Word for ourselves. If you are going to spend eternity with Jesus in heaven- - why would you not want to learn all you can about Jesus? He's the lover of your soul.

    Your husband, if he was born again, is in heaven. It is our FAITH in what Jesus says of himself in the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.

    Faith without works is dead. I think the "works"he's talking about is learning about him. In Matthew 26:31-46 mentions ways to relieve others who have lack and have not seen a reason to seek out Jesus.

    Our kindness to others opens a door to tell someone else how you came to believe in Jesus. He's not a church; He's a real Person..the Son of God. Anything we do in the name of Jesus, does not go unrewarded. Amen?

    The Lord bless you, Mishael
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    Judy, may the Spirit grace you with his wisdom and his understanding.

    Were women commanded to be circumcised in the old testament? Are you cut off from God for not being circumcised?

    Romans 2:28-29 For he (or she) is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outwardly in the flesh:

    (vs 29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; an circumcision that is of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

    Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

    It's Christ in you, the new birth, that is the true circumcision.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    Judy,

    "Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God." 1Co 7:18-19

    Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing

    The only question is, had he made peace with God? It's the question we must all ask. What have you done with Jesus?

    "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Titus 3:5

    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Rom 10:9-10
  • D39andre - In Reply on Genesis 17 - 3 years ago
    No.

    1 Corinthians 7:19, KJV: "Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God."



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