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  • George Wade Jr on Revelation 3 - 3 years ago
    1. The Papacy.

    Who are her daughters?

    2. Sometime after Christ's crucifixion and resurrection, a meeting of the early churches decided to change God's 7th day Sabbath to Sunday.

    3. This change was justified by a) honoring Christ's sacrifice on the cross and b) to separate themselves from association with Judaism.

    What I find mystifying is that Christ Himself claimed to be the Lord of the Sabbath. Yet how is it then that the majority of "Christian" denominations consider Sunday as the sabbath, rather than the one Jesus and the Apostles both observed and preached?

    Such change could only be from a power intent on corrupting God's appointed Sabbath...The Beast of Revelation, Satan working behind the the cloak of Catholicism.

    Lastly, The closing of Revelation concludes that God's people are those that "keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ.

    I welcome your response,

    George G. Wade, Jr (MD, PhD, Retired)
  • Ron - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 3 years ago
    Dr. Wade, first I'm sure you will hear several answers on the daughters, from me would be speculation.

    When Jesus came, He came for only the lost sheep of Israel to fulfill the first covenant and confirm the new covenant. Matthew 15:24.Jesus was fulfilling the old covenant so they obeyed the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the seventh day and man does not have the authority to change it. If we worship on a Sunday we still can not call it the Sabbath. Some call it the Lords Day for resurrection day. We are to worship in Spirit John 4:24, any day of the week or all. The Sabbath is also in the law.

    Rom. 14:4-6 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth, not and giveth God.

    The division started with Constantine's Sunday law and the penalties came down at Laodicea. The two reasons I am aware of, the Roman and Greek pagan religion festivals and worship were on Sunday and they used these days to introduce Christian holidays. The other, many Christians were meeting on the Sabbath along with the Jews and they did not want them to.

    Gal.3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

    If said the commandments of God is the Law, including the 10, if we try to be justified by them we are "a debtor to do the whole law". We are to be obedient in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. May God bless, Ron
  • Carleton - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 3 years ago
    Seems complicated until it isn't. Hebrews Chapter 4 helps alot. Man after the fall of Adam made his own works and those works follow the unconverted man to this day. The same works are a burden and weigh men down to the point where man can hardly carry such a burden. But Jesus suggests that man can share in his rest by entering in if one believes. The day that matters is the day that one harden's not their heart in sin. There remains after the fall of Adam a rest to the people of God. Those whose hard hearts were broken and made contrite cease from their own works. The one who is at rest can possibly labor again into unbelief. The Lord knows are thoughts and intentions and everything is manifest into His sight. Jesus is the Son of God is our belief and if He entered onto His rest so do His believers if we hold fast to our profession of Him as or Savior. It takes a boldness to approach this throne of grace to find mercy in our High Priest.

    :)



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