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  • Melvin S on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    Here's something I don't understand as a new christian. I was told that when I die , I'll go to heavan. But the bible says when JESUS comes back HE'LL call them from the grave first and then those who are left on earth next. How will HE call from the grave when we're already with him.
  • How are the dead and living changed at the Rapture - In Reply on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    As a born again Christian you are flesh, you have a soul, your spirit is alive in Christ. ( a triune being.)

    When your flesh body dies it is buried by family or it remains where it fell dead.

    God says in Scripture that "all souls are Mine." It is in heaven.

    Your spirit ascends into heaven to be with Christ, until the Rapture.

    At the moment that Jesus appears in the clouds and calls up all those who are deceased, graves will open and the body will join Jesus first. The resurrection body of flesh, soul and spirit will be restored. In the twinkling of the eye.

    Next those who are alive, will join Jesus in their resurrection body that will be changed instantly.

    Billions of people will be with Jesus! Jesus will instantly take us to heaven to attend the wedding supper of the Bridegroom. All those who were invited to attend, who received salvation, will be at this celebration.

    There will not be last minute invitations sent out. We have to accept salvation before this happens.

    It's a mystery we will all be a part of: those that were born again. John chapter 3. No amount of money or tears of regret, will enable the unsaved to attend the Marriage Supper. All believers will be The Bride of Christ.

    Is one last beer party or sex sin worth missing out on eternity with relatives, friends, children; who had already passed on and are awaiting us joining them?

    I mean no offense or hurt, when I say that all children who died by illness, accident, murder, or abortion, will be in heaven too. There will be no sorrow or sadness: just joyful reunions. I lost a child and I'm looking forward to meeting that baby I named and had so many plans for.

    There will be no more sorrow; just joy unspeakable! Everyone on earth is invited. Why not accept the invitation TODAY? John 3 will tell you how. Find the link on this website to "Become a Christian."

    Mishael
  • Adam - In Reply on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    Dear Melvin,

    That's a good question. I personally trust what the Bible says over what men say. I'm 100% certain that we will not go to heaven until judgment day first occurs, and I'm certain that day won't come until Jesus first returns to earth, and I'm certain that the scriptures that say the dead will rise and meet him in the air is true. The Bible also refers to people who are dead as being 'asleep', and I believe that to those who die it will seem like a second and they will be meeting Jesus and awaiting Judgment. So, I believe it's untrue for people to tell others they immediately go to heaven- they often ignore all the other verses and focus on only 3 to support that theory, which are often misinterpreted. They say Jesus said in this day you will see me in paradise- but 2 things: Jesus can make exceptions for whomever he wants, and second, paradise isn't necessarily heaven, but may be the waiting place before judgment. Then they say Paul said apart from the body with the Lord, but 2 things: 1. It doesn't say it, it says Paul would "rather" be with the Lord, he didn't say in 100% of all cases if you are dead that you are automatically with the Lord. If that was true, what about people who go to hell- are they "with the Lord" too? Also people who die may not be separated from their bodies yet. And finally they say, yeah, but Elijah went to heaven. God can do whatever he wants- Moses had a talking bush- does that mean you get one? Noah built an ark- does that mean everyone has arks? Just because God gave someone extra attention doesn't mean it automatically applies to 100% of all people, all the time. It's interesting how some assume that concept applies to some verses, but not others.

    When you continue to read scripture and you see verses like Daniel 12:2, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and it's hard to not just take it literally and believe exactly what it says. I believe what God says over what any man says.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - In Reply on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    Amen to your comments! False doctrines everywhere, if it don't line up with the Word of God, it is false! The Word of God plainly states that when the last trumpet sounds the dead in Christ shall rise first; you can not rise up if you are already up there. If people would believe Gods Word, and live it just the way he tells us to, instead of adding or subtracting from it to fit their way of life; we would see a lot more bright light instead of just sparks in this dark world. God Bless!
  • Charles R Peek - In Reply on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    No, it doesn't say trumpet, it say "trump"; that makes a world of difference. The trumpet sounds, one of those sounds is called a trump. Has nothing to do with the seven trumpet in the book of revelation. READ IT MORE SLOWELY.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - In Reply on Acts 3 - 3 years ago
    To Charles R Peek, what do you think trump is in the Word of God, it is a trumpet, it sure is not Donald, or Rook. As for your comment to me about once saved always saved; I did not write anything about that, I do not believe that nonsense. Just letting you know. 1 Corinthians 8:2

    And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.



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