Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Donna on Galatians 3
    Is it true that a woman should not preach in church
  • Rod - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Hi Donna, I would have only one question, is the word of God being taught? we went through this exact situation a number of years ago in our church, some left on so called principle but most stayed, at the end of the day we survived.

    I'm fully aware of what it says in 1 Corinthians, but, as in Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." this would be more of my view of what the word church really means as opposed to the physical building used for worship. I don't read any version of the bible other than KJV, but as per others that are much more learned than myself, the KJV is more accurate. Like in our church, I'm sure the fellowship in your church would be like family, Just a question, would bible study as a group work. Throughout the bible you find that there are a number of women who influenced their fellow man proclaiming Jesus ministry, I've listed just a few.

    I do hope this may help

    John 4:25-29 Because of the Samaritan woman at the well, many came to believe,

    Romans 16:1 "I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:"

    Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:"

    Acts 9:36-42 40 "But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up."
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Hi Donna. Debra was a judge in Israel. The church was not called out. There is no mention of the Lady elect in 2 John being a preacher.

    And the 2 woman at the tomb, The church still haven't started and that was not preaching,

    1 Timothy 2:12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. The church is a gathering, a people called out. I think the emphasis here is when gathered ""men and women"" she is to be silent, meaning not to give input to teach. However I believe she can teach other or younger women.

    Titus 2:3-5. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

    That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

    To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

    1 Corinthians 14:34-36. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

    And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

    What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? And please don't take that as a sign of disrespect. I do know a woman in a marriage is supposed to model the bride of Christ. Maybe someone can elaborate on it a bit more. Thank you
  • Donna - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Thank you so much. Our previous pastor who has passed away taught us women are not allowed to preach and i read it in 1Corinthians. Thank you for sharing this with me!!
  • Sarah - in Reply on Galatians 3
    What state do you live in Donna? I'm glad I could help! If you have any more questions about the Bible or anything else, please comment on here, and I will answer any questions of yours!

    Blessings,

    Sarah Chessiy
  • Donna Vargas - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Good evening, In respond to your email, I live in California. Thank you for your response. Will stay in touch if I have any more questions.

    Donna
  • Sarah - in Reply on Galatians 3
    I hope you find a church you like! I an on here every day, so I will see anything you put to help you!

    Sarah Chessiy
  • Donna Vargas - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Thank you so much!! I will stay in touch
  • R Evette Brown - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Good afternoon,

    I just happened to stumble in this area of the website and read the comments about the Bible and women preachers. Let me encourage you there are women preachers in the Word of God. You have Deborah the prophetess in the Old Testament who was one of the Judges (Judges 4:4-5), the Lady Elect in the New Testament (2 John) and then you have the women who was sent not only by the angel sitting at Jesus' tomb to proclaim He had risen to His disciples, but on the way, they met Jesus who greeted them and instructed them to tell his brethren to go to Galilee to see Him there. They were the first to see and proclaim Jesus was alive and rose from the dead.

    Sometimes the Word of God can be misconstrued and taken out of context. This is why we have to pray and study God's word ourselves (ref. 2 Timothy 2:15) along with being taught by our leader.

    I also believe King James Version is the best version to read. If you have a hard time understanding ask God to open your understanding to His truth. I also recommend keeping a commentary next to you as you read the Word of God. Matthew Henry is a good commentary to read.

    I pray this information has helped you.
  • Chris - in Reply on Galatians 3
    When we use 1 Timothy 1:12 as the authority for women to be in silence, it is in respect to the order & discipline within the Church of Jesus Christ. Just as in the matter of head covering (1 Corinthians 11:3-16), the Church directive has always followed the order of: God - Jesus Christ - Man - Woman. There is no disregard or humiliation given to the woman - it's just the Divine order prescribed for the Church.

    You quote Deborah, the judge & prophetess. She was so equipped & called by God to serve. But could she minister in the Tabernacle or its environs? And we could say the same for the other women mentioned, so called of God. Or the Elect Lady or those women at the Tomb: none of these were teachers - we would have to force that meaning into those passages.

    So whether concerning the Jewish Temple, Synagogue, or even the Church, the order has always been the same, with the Church given greater latitude, allowing women to minister to children & youth & engage in other services in the Church. Even if I read right up to The Revelation, I don't see any change to this Divine Pattern. How then is God's Word misconstrued or taken out of context? When human sentiment enters into Divine instruction, it is then we fall into error, which then is very often compounded.
  • Recilda E Brown - in Reply on Galatians 3
    I appreciate and thank you, brother for your response.

    The definition of preaching is the delivery of a sermon or religious address to an assembled group of people, typically in church. A prophet is a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God and a prophetess is a female prophet. Prophetess Deborah judged the children of Israel in the same manner as the men. A prophet(ess) and preacher have the same required duties.

    I am a member of a church that is 90-years established. God called a woman to establish and start this church. The pastor I am under is the first male to pastor our church. Prior to him three females pastored this church and he grew up under their leadership and teach the same Gospel message from the same version Bible (King James) as they taught and preached from. I do believe in the order of God and this is why I believe God has called women to preach and pastor. His Word is enough to confirm his calling on women to preach.

    If truth be told, once a man, woman, and or child repent of sins, be baptized in the Name of Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and be filled with the precious gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:1-4; 36-41) they become preachers (spiritual) when they testify of their new birth experience, which proclaims the salvation plan of the Lord.

    Some brethren believe in women preachers (or pastors) and some don't; nonetheless, our hearts focus needs to be on spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ and winning souls into His kingdom and being rapture ready awaiting Jesus' return for His Church.

    God bless you.
  • Chris - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Thank you for your comments - if I might take you up on a couple of things you mentioned there:

    "A prophet(ess) and preacher have the same required duties." I suppose we would disagree on this aspect as I see that the prophet & the preacher are very different, unless of course, the preacher is gifted in receiving the prophetic Word. A prophet or prophetess would receive God's Word as a particular revelation to bring to the people. It must include more than a rehearsal of what is already known, but a direct Word from God for the future (whether for good or ill). If it doesn't include "the future", then it's not a prophetical utterance. After the Word of God was completed (as we have it now), has there been any prophecy from anyone (except the false prophets, of course), that could add to the Bible? Bearing in mind Revelation 22:18,19?

    "His Word is enough to confirm his calling on women to preach." Well, I have yet to find a Scriptural authority for this to happen. Rather, when we come to worship, we have the attendance of Heaven as well. If even the angels observe the order & dignity in our services (1 Corinthians 11:10), then what must Heaven observe if there is a woman usurping the Divine Order, & see a woman preaching the Word to a mixed congregation. Can a sister share her testimony, can she minister to other sisters & children or can she assist in whatever way the Lord has gifted her? Of course, she can - she fulfils her position in the Church receiving the appreciation & gratitude of the Church. Blessings.
  • Sarah Chessiy - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Donna,

    To answer your question, women should not preach in church. But in other religious churches that believe God is not real or Jesus is still dead, those kind of churches probably, more than likely will allow or want women to preach. But in churches that believe in the KJV Bible, they do not believe that women should preach. A couple or few may allow women to preach, but pretty much all churches believing in the KJV version do not allow or want or even let women preach. Does that answer your question?

    Blessings,

    Sarah Chessiy
  • Recilda E Brown - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Thank you, for your comment also, but there are many churches who use the King James version of the Bible that very much so believe Jesus Christ is alive. The word of God applies to all who will believe and follow him. My personal testimony Jesus led me to Matthew 4:19 prior to getting the baptism of his Holy Spirit and then led me back to the scripture again after filling me with His Spirit to confirm what he called me to do. Again, we as the church can take God's word out of context and misconstrue to our own meaning. If we are honest with ourselves, we have all done it.

    We can agree to disagree in love....
  • Donna Vargas - in Reply on Galatians 3
    That is what I thought however we do not have a pastor at this time and the church is considering an interim pastor but is a woman. We are Baptist, church is Baptist but reads out of the NIV. We are a very small church and most of us are over 70. What do you suggest. They don't seem to be having a problem with a woman preaching. Thank you for taking time for me.

    Donna
  • Donna Vargas - in Reply on Galatians 3
    That's what I thought but we are without a preacher right now and they are cinsidering sn interm and she it's a woman. We are a Baptist church and they use a NIV
  • Sarah Chessiy - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Donna,

    I suggest to find a different church to go to. The NIV version is never accurate, and what you read in the NIV won't ever be true. The NIV is called New International Version. The KJV version is the only one that will EVER be true. God wrote the Bible thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. Hundreds and hundreds of years later, people have tried to change what the Bible says. Neither God or the Bible will change. So I suggest finding and going to a different church. I have a suggestion of what church you should go to, but first, what state are you in?

    Blessings,

    Sarah Chessiy
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Galatians 3
    Donna Vargas,

    "we are without a preacher right now and they are cinsidering an interm"

    The "we" and "they" have to talk things through. Never forget Christ himself is the spiritual head of any church, and he dwells in the heart and head of every believer. Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?


 

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