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  • TERRY BATEMAN on 1 Timothy 5:25 - 3 years ago
    Dear brothers and sisters in christ jesus,

    my grandson and i were talking about drinking and smoking pot and he asked me if it was wrong? he then brought up about a deacon having a little wine and the pastor none. i told him i did not want him to drink, but if he did he must remember what goes in and what comes out. a couple of beers and then you go to bed, i don't see any harm, but would one or two lead to three or four tomorrow? pot has been used down through history by many groups of people to perform releigous services or used in medical healing. however, what was used was called hemp without the thc. if you do smoke you must again remember what goes in and what comes out. are you going to drink to get drunk? cause trouble, hurt someone both physical or mentally? the same with pot. are you going to just mellow out or sin? many have gotten high and had sex with strangers and the next day not remembering anything, but a few days later you go to the doctor and have a disease. what if it is one that there is no cure for? my advice if you do use it, stay at home where youare with those you can trust. i also told him his body was gods temple.

    what can you tell me about the pastor drinking no wine and the deacon a little wine? is it ok for the congregation to drink? what would you tell a almost nineteen-year-old?

    thank you for your time and help. i pray asking our heavenly father to watch over and bless you all and your families and friends, keeping all of you safe and well every day and every night!

    your brother in christ

    terry bateman
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Timothy 5:25 - 3 years ago
    Hi Terry, I believe it's the influence of the flesh a substance can have on you is the the issue. Even some music can get you out of the spirit .
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Timothy 5:25 - 3 years ago
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    As you will note, that these portions show what the Christian's attitude should be concerning the things we allow into our body or mind. We have many Scriptures about that which affects the spirit, but here it's the body. The apostles write, that though there may not be a specific command to abstain or avoid some things, we have to ask "Is it the right thing to do before God & man; will I be gripped by its power; will the thing defile me, God's Temple, where the Holy Spirit resides; will I still have full control of my mind & not let the substance control me?"

    Your grandson is old enough to understand & relate to these questions I'm sure. There are many fine believers who can take a drink & still control their intake & behaviour of mind & body, but that shouldn't give us licence to imbibe freely, knowing that our downfall is ever lurking. We shouldn't see that a "deacon having a little wine" as carte blanche for all. We are all individually responsible for actions of our body, mind & spirit before God with Whom we have to do.

    May God give you Terry, the wisdom & grace as you share with your grandson & the necessary spiritual fortitude to resist any such temptation that might be to his hurt. Keep tabs on his life & his friendships - it will be your part in watching over his soul.
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Timothy 5:25 - 3 years ago
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    That's always going to be a difficult subject to discuss, nevertheless extremely important as young people particularly, are under much peer pressure to 'try it & conform'. You don't mention whether your grandson's questions were just a general enquiry or because his friends were 'doing it' & therefore was being open enough to get your biblical perspective.

    First off, drugs, any drugs are a No-No. I don't believe that even a little use can do no harm. It's the present curse in society & resulting in much irreparable damage & death. With alcohol or any substance that might be ingested (even foods), my continual urging is for restraint & conforming to the Word of God.

    Three portions of Scripture that govern me in this area are:

    1 Corinthians 6:12 "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

    1 Corinthians 3:16,17: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

    1 Peter 1:13: "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ."



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