Bible Discussion Thread

Alex comments about the Israel of God in Christ Jesus there is no more JEW OR GENTILE simply b/c he did away with both Jew and Gentile and made of the TWAIN ONE NEW MAN which is the H.G. our new innerman which is the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE, THE ISRAEL OF GOD. neither circumcision nor uncircumcision but a new creature which is the H.G that is new to us simply b/c he is BORN in us, but in that he was with God b/f the world was he is old, thus its the H.G that was preordained b/f the world WAS ,We are just a joint heir with the H.G. .Ya gotta realize that we all were BORN by the will of some man, but that Christ that has to be Born in us can only be born by the WILL OF GOD ( THE SEED OF THE SOWER ). The CHILD of promise which is the Israel of God . When the scrip. says he took of the twain ( jew and gentile ) and made one newman which is the H.G. our new innerman , that new creature, thats Replacement Theology . I don't use the numbering system hardly at all simply b/c Jesus nor the disciples used any kind of numbering system. we lift up our tool on the bible when we use the numbering system defiling it. Mans carnal mind is his tool . Remember uzza lifted up his hand on the ark when the ozzen stumbled and God slew him there. Vain is the help of man.

Alex I don't think you are familiar with the term replacement theology, maybe you are mistaking it for covenant theology, Replacement theology is a term given to covenant theologist for believing the church has taken over the promises to Israel, and don't believe in a literal kingdom. some say that Israel was never given the promises they allegorise the scripture. Replacement theology is a name that they don't like to be called. but the term has nothing to do with salvation as you attempt to associate it with, There is no Replacement in God's plan of Redemption, it was the same for Adam and Eve as it is for us today. However you can't tie yourself to their theology either because they don't believe we're going to be God's as you have said, The Holyspirit is Christ grand son as you has said, by the way which makes him our nephew, you also said Jesse is a part of the Davidic kingdom desperately trying to form a type of trinity, they wouldn't agree. they use the Israel of God similar in the way you do but they say the Israel of God exists today, you say its the baby Holy Ghost witch we will give birth to in the future, now you do seem to point out some types and allegorical differences in scripture like "flesh, 1st Adam", /"Christ 2nd Adam" " flesh and the spirit " law and grace, Rebecca Hagi" Esau Jacob. Now these scriptures can be useful when you are studying ellection and the 2 natures we possess as Paul does in Romans 6,7,and 8, but you misuse these word and scripture push a belief system that dont hold the truth. not trying to affend you but your doctrine is dangerous for newly Christians.

Comments by Alex to Steven S. about the Davidic Kingdom. Steven you say that Jesse was not any part of the Davidic Kingdom when Isaiah 11 says there shall come a rod out of the stem of Jesse which was David and a branch shall come out of his roots a man of much wisdom thats Solomon . But all of this is symbolic of the branch that will come out of the Father which is Christ the son and the branch that comes out of the DAVID the son was Solomon the Granson that God allowed to build the GREAT TEMPLE Symbolic of the Kingdom of God that the H.G. builds in our hearts . God wd not allow David the son to build that great temple but only Solomon the Granson . Which implies there is gonna be an Israel OF God via the seed of the H.G. WHICH IS REGENERATION OF THE H.G. Remember Jesus said the Kingdom is gonna be with in you, This cd not happen without the seed of Christ the word of God as Jesus said the good seed is the WORD of the Kingdom . Thats what the trinity really is FATHER SON AND GRANSON Thats y God told Moses that his NAME WAS ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB. Which was father son and granson . Without this Abrahamic trinity there CD NOT have been a NATION OF ISREAL. Likewise without this heavenly trinity there can not be an ISRAEL OF GOD. And thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity that Christ might be multiplied as the stars of heaven i.e an Israel of God born in humanity us sinners. Don't cha see that God wd be lying if there is no TRINITY, When he said that his Name was Abraham Issac and Jacob, and Jesus saying he was the root and the offspring of DAVID ,The Root being Jesse and the offspring being Solomon the Granson . Steven God almighty swore by his very self when he made that Promise of multiplication thats y jesus is saying to whom the word came, ( remember the word is God) ,it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken. I will multiply thy seed as the Stars of Heaven thus th babes and sucklings Gods grand children, TH H.G.