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  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 18 - 3 years ago
    Robert, thank you for your comments but this thread has become too long & I can't even be certain that I would respond correctly given the passage of time.

    However, I understand that you believe that Jesus is now only in Heaven. The Scriptures you cite can be understood in both ways (Jesus only in Heaven or Father & Son in Heaven). But if we fail to understand the Triune God's Nature then everything subsequent to that will fail or become distorted. I recall that you once wrote an analogy of a man that can be a husband, a father, a president - do you remember that? And you related that to the Godhead as being One (i.e. Jesus). That analogy fails because you're referring to one Man fulfilling three outward functions, but he himself only being one entity.

    The Trinity is not all about that; it's about God (& putting it crudely for our understanding), having two other Beings within Him - He is One with two other Beings within Him that emanate from Him to fulfil His Will. So if one Being ('an aspect') of God was missing (whether the Word or the Spirit) He wouldn't be God (at least by how He is revealed to us in Scripture). Just as man would not be a 'normal' man, without a body, soul or spirit.

    So when we read "the Father dwelleth in Me" or "I am in the Father & the Father in Me", Jesus is showing that intrinsic composition of the Godhead: the Father, the Word (Jesus) & the Spirit are inseparable & indivisible. If you 'see' God, you must also see Jesus & the Spirit as a part of God. If you 'see' Jesus, then again, the Father & the Spirit must be seen and so too with the Spirit: all Three are part of One & together function as One, fulfilling the Will of One. To think that the Father is only seen in Jesus making the Presence of God no longer in Heaven except for Jesus, is to then throw away so much other Scripture that show otherwise, that God is in Heaven & the risen Jesus beside Him (which we have discussed before).
  • Robert Malit - In Reply on Deuteronomy 18 - 3 years ago
    Continuation of my comments

    JUSTIFICATION OF GOD'S USED OF PLURAL PRONOUNS "US & OUR" = HE IS SURROUNDED BY CHERUBIMS AS MESSENGERS

    Ezekiel 10:19 Context 19And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also were beside them, and every one stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD'S house; and the glory of the God of Israel was over them above. 20This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims. 21Every one had four faces apiece, and every one four wings; and the likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings.

    1.TAKES AWAY FROM = preposition "by"

    2.ADDS = preposition "through" and replaced preposition "by"

    3.PURPOSE OF THIS CHANGE = justifies there is a Triune God or Trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit)

    4.CHANGE CONTRADICTS THE TRUTH = there is no biblical truth to support the Trinity in the Bible

    5.NULLIFIES = these subtle changes nullify the written word of God or truth in the Bible - BLASPHEMES GOD = AN UNPARDONABLE SIN

    THIS IS THE TRUTH - TRUE GOSPEL OF GOD

    KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE = MOST ACCURATE VERSION

    John 1:1-3 KJV 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    THIS IS WHAT THE FALSE TEACHERS HAD DONE TO JUSTIFY THEIR TRINITY DOCTRINE - 3 persons in 1 God, (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit)

    NEW KING JAMES VERSION = CHANGED - CONTRADICTS TRUTH

    John 1:1-3 NKJV 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

    WHAT THEY DID IS BLASPHEMED GOD - AN UNFORGIVEABLE SIN. BY USING FLOWERY WORDS, THEY DECEIVED THEIR FOLLOWERS.


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