Bible Discussion Thread

Hello, I am in a discussion with a 7th D.A. who claims we as Christians will go thru the 7 yr trib. I of course disagree. I believe all Christians will be raptured before the 7 yr trib. How do i prove this. I am a KJV1611 Bible believing christian. Hope you can help me give an answer to him.

Alison South Africa

We who are born again of Gods spirit i.e. christians will be saved from the wrath or tribulation to come because Christ will come back to gather Us His body the born again believers.

People need to read the Bible and quit making up stuff that they think will happen because that is what is going to come down just what the Bible says! Just tell people to read John 3 16 that verse tells you in a very very simple way what you need to do to make it to Heaven! Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and if you truly believe in Him you are going to live like God wants you to! All you have to do is be a Believer, so simple! It is so easy for me to believe in God and his Son Jesus Christ just by looking at this world and everything in it! It did not just evolve like people say it was to complex for that! It was created by God and just say look at the Sun. It has burned at the same temp. from the day it was created also and has never ran out or low on fuel since that day it was created! Amen!!! I hope so much that I am pleasing God because I want to go to Heaven and just think of the best day you have ever had on earth ever and times that day by one million and that is what it will be like in Heaven and then some!! Amen!

If I may. The kingdom is always changing. We who believe the word know these things because of history. The prophets declared , things and events in the old testament. We see these words also from John, and apostle are the revelation, are the compilation of events that would come to pass at sometime, and or in sometime! Gods word is eternal, and God wants all people to be saved. Because of this ,our God is longsuffering and wishes non to perish. Enoch and Elijah, were translated into heaven bodily. The new testament has described this to happen again ,"one taken and another left". Christ also teaches of his coming, while he is ever present with us. Understanding his words are paramount! we should add nothing to it nor take away from it, more than it says. Christ wants us to watch, to be patient, and you to know ,that you are in the palm of His hand! Is this not enough for you and I to serve Him?

Alison, this is a huge subject to deal with here, especially to cite supporting Scriptures. May I suggest you refer to this Site: calvarycedarrapids dot com & then go to their Media Tab & then Downloads. As you search there, you should see an option for Rapture/End Times & then, Pre-Tribulation Rapture. A very comprehensive lesson is given with plenty of supporting Scriptures. For your discussion with the SDA man, you may want to list the points down & their Scriptures & anything else that will help you in your discussion.

Now, there are plenty of fine believers that also hold to the other positions of Christ's Second Coming, also supporting their position with pertinent Scriptures. So we need to be open to the other's presentation, ask questions & follow through with research on what they share. The Lord bless you during your study & in your meeting.

Hi Alison from Mzansi. I believe you may both be slightly off course. Some Christians will go up in the Rapture while others will be left behind to go through the tribulation. Read Revelation 13 where it starts with the beast coming out of the sea. This takes place at the beginning of the tribulation. The overcoming Christians have already been raptured. Later in Rev 13vs7 the saints make war with the beast and the beast overcomes them. These saints missed the rapture because they have not overcome their carnal fleshly nature. Also in Rev 15vs2 they get victory over the beast and image and mark. Again this happens during the tribulation on earth (After rapture). So it is not either or but rather some will be raptured and some not. I will explain who goes in the rapture and who doesn't qualify if you respond to this reply.

GL from WC (RSA)