Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Sharon on John 10 - 3 years ago
    John 10:29 in the KJB refers to..."my Father who gave them me..." yet, in the NIV it says..."my Father who gave them to me..."

    Which is the correct translation...gave them me...or, gave them to me?
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    The Father, gave Jesus from himself. God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself! Jesus declares the Father. The Father and the Son are one! Jesus at the same time calls Him His Father . The unity of the trinity is the foundation of the gospel. We do not serve a monotheistic God! We serve the trinity. In verse 30 he answers your question. Anytime man adds to or subtracts from the word it is for mans design and not Gods. These, 3 cannot be separated. If man must die to preserve these truths . Then we say Amen!
  • Sharon Wright - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    Thanks for the response. I agree with everything you said, but it still doesnt answer my question. The discrepancy is which Bible version is correct...my Father gave them me...or, ...my Father gave them TO me...
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    How God calls us to himself? The power that draws us unto him , he has a specific plan for us! Personally, even as a child he uses us in certain ways. As we mature and experience the life we have in this world, We are always in the palm of His hand. We may not know it , but he is using us all the time. There is no way for us to know the needs of others, it is only when he moves in us, he uses us! Sin ,will always be Satan's op. to throw us off. Make us feel guilty! Christ understands these things, that is why he came. That, we would be free through his accomplishment in the flesh. This is a great thing he has done for mankind! I would say that Jesus enjoyed his life. His love for others, and what he saw in his children's eyes , could be nothing less than who he is! Blessed are those who have not seen and believe! Christ the same today and everyday!Thanks be to God through our lord Jesus Christ.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    Here is the Geek. " My Father who has given (them)to me greater then all is, and no one is able to seize out of the hand of my Father. "Gave them to me" would be the correct interpretation .God created you, therefore made it possible to know God through His son .When this happens no one can take you out of his hand. You are literally in Gods hands. Jesus Hand! As Christ began His ministry, everything that happened was according to his Fathers will. Every disciple, that joined him was from God the Father. Every thought, every person who came to him ,God the Father brought them to him! Every word that he spoke came from God the Father. Jesus said that He was here to do His Fathers will! I and my Father are one! The only time I see Jesus without his Father is during temptation. That is a whole other place. I wish to say, comes upon all of his children at one time or another. Even still no one can take you out of his hand!
  • Sharon Wright - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    I suppose either would be true...God gave his son to us...and, He gave us to His Son. I love that no one can snatch us from God's hand! Thank you for your response.
  • Fred andJoann Scanlan - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    Understanding his love for us, would be an eternity of learning. That is why He loves us so much !So. so. much. We have but a short time here to learn these things . God bless, keep up your study. You will only do nothing less than grow in him.
  • Gary Lee - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    The King James version is the correct one. Use only the KJV. Do not trust any other version. Stay away from NIV or any other. There are errors in the new translations. Throw it in the dustbin. And get yourself a Strong's concordance based on the KJV. It will teach you the original meaning of every word. Read also John 17:6
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on John 10 - 3 years ago
    It is a well that springs up unto everlasting life. Oh, the words of Jesus!
  • Jess - In Reply - 2 years ago
    In response to Sharon....in Revelation 22:18-19 as well as in Duet.4:2 The Holy Spirit has taught me..no one is to add or take away from God's word...so with that Truth of God...adding the word "to" is in direct disobedience to God...a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump...words are important to God...we have been told to not do such a thing...



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