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  • Miles Pride on 1 Corinthians 6:9 - 3 years ago
    The Adamic Sin contaminated all humans except Christ. Diseases, deformities etc. Are also results of our cursed bodies.

    That brings up another thorny issue. Homosexuality as a "choice" is one thing. However, genetics can confuse sexual identity as well! These persons are the most complex and should NOT be confused with persons who CHOSE the life. Genuine Genetic homosexuals must trust Christ for their Salvation and their sanity. Every ones walk with Christ is personal and God gives GRACE! The most important thing to say to God to keep from GIVING HIM UP is this...LORD, you know my failings. But in spite of MY failings I will Always Declare YOU ARE RIGHT AND HOLY! FOR BETTER OR WORSE I THROW MYSELF ON YOUR MERCY. AMEN.

    This declaration from your heart will help you to cling to God when OTHER CHRISTIANS SAY "YOU" HOMOSEXUALS are Not Worthy. GOD is able and willing to keep you SAVED if you declare HIM to be RIGHT. Christ Died for you, those Christians did not. Satan wants you to abandon God, because Satan wants to drive you insane.

    One day our flesh will no longer be at odds with God's Spirit [in] us. Because as Paul says when this flesh goes back to dust, we will receive our SINLESS GLORIFIED BODIES! ALLELUYAH!!!
  • Derek - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I've struggled with homosexuality my whole life, even before I knew what gay was. I never wanted it, but in a way I did. How could I want something that I hated so much? Because I knew what God thought about this sin; it was an abominationt against God, so therefore I hated it. Please understand, I realize that there are many sins that God hates, but I think more than Homosexuality, God hates pride even more. How dare we say that God is wrong, or that God is cruel when it is WE who are wrong and it is US who are cruel. Do we dare to judge The Almighty God?

    What did Jesus come to do? What did He come to save us from? Hell. Who made Hell? What is Hell other than the Wrath of God? So in other words, Jesus came to SAVE us from the Wrath of God. He paid THAT penalty. The death penalty that WE deserved because from birth we are in constant rebellion. Rebellion against Who?Rebellion against God. Is our rebellion genetic? Yes. Is it by choice? Yes. Does the world want us to rebel against God? Yes. Does Satan try to get us to curse God and die? Yes. But God, being rich in mercy, Who is LOVE itself, loved us so much that while we were still in sin, living in absolute rebellion, gave Himself in the form of a Man to take on that death we deserved. Christ came to save sinners. I am a sinner. So that means Christ came to save me. But Jesus didn't come to save people who aren't sinners, so if you are someone (homosexual or not) who doesn't think that they are a sinner, then maybe Jesus didn't come to save you. Because Jesus came to save ONLY sinners. He didn't suffer crucifixion because we were just so darn awesome. He did it because HE is awesome! All we can do is repent. That means, turn your back on your sin. I will hate anything that would attempt to keep me from Christ. If you want Love, Real LOVE, then want Jesus. Don't want something that is just temporary physical satisfaction. Want Someone Who is Eternally Pure, and Who Is Pure Love Itself. That is what Heaven will be.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Derek,

    You're right, to sum it up God hates sin, ALL SIN.

    All we can do is to acknowledge it, I commend you for that, We continue in his word and prayer and resist all that hinders us. As king David said the Lord comfort us with his staff. He chastens us, we must respond to the chastening.

    And not focus on one single sin in our life, just sin in general. We're not perfect but should be growing because our increase and pruning comes from the Lord.

    There's nothing we can "COMPLETELY" do about any sin in our life, BUT GOD CAN AND WHETHER COMPLETELY? IF HE DESIDES TO.

    When we repent we turn from sin and turn to him,

    When we stumble does it bother us? Hopefully so!! That's the Lord working.

    We pick ourselves up and never give up on pleasing the Lord. Salvation is a process, We're Saved and being Saved and will be Saved. We pray for a change within ourselves. And don't forget We're Saved unto good works. Don't focus on every individual stumble, Instead focus on the sin nature within us that causes the stumble. We need truth, We pray for regenerated heart. Whether Homosexuality, Liars, Pride, Fornication, Idolatry, ect. Funny how we get rid of single out sin and there comes Pride. Then we're sinning all over again with Pride.

    We should run from all temptation and surrender to the Lord and admit to him we can't do it without him. HE KNOWS.

    I Pray the Lord strengthen you.

    God bless.
  • Sacha - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Derek ,thankyou so much for your honest and heart felt post ,you are very brave ,two of my five step daughters are in relationships with women ,they are not religious so i guess Gods laws dont apply to them , i still love my step daughters as much as i ever did but i must be as honest as you have been and i hope they find nice Christian men soon ! I shant hold my breath though ,i was celibate after i was saved for almost seven years until i married my husband but as a young woman before i found God i had a few boyfriends ,for me it was never about sex ,it was about male company affection intimacy friendship ,sex has always been bottom of a long list for me , i know a few gay Christians who remain celibate ,they have my upmost respect and admiration ,i cant imagine how lonely they must get , if any one out there knows a celibate gay Christian please befriend them and support them and aim to be a good Christian friend to them ,they walk a very lonely road and they need our support , stay strong Derek ,God sees your struggle ,may He send you many good Christian friends .
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Sacha.

    we are to be a light to everyone.

    God bless.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Sacha and S Spencer!
  • Fred scanlan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen, and Amen.

    Paul is specific to those who think and judge on these things. In the second chapter to the Romans he is clear, crystal clear.

    The Holy Spirit is a person. That person will become the person you are, through faith in in Christ! You or I have no power than that which comes from above! This is grace! Grace found in the shed blood of Jesus Christ!

    This is power that cannot be harnessed by man through works! This is power unfathomable from heaven !

    Thank you Jesus for such saving grace , indeed while I was yet a sinner!



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