Bible Discussion Thread

  • Mild Bill on Matthew 13:41
    Alex, you err, "as all men will give birth to Christ", not ALL," Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21,22,23

    This is a detail of err in your teaching, which is heretical in total.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Thank you for reading me BILL but thats y they call Jesus The 2 nd ADAM. What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions .It wd make God a hypocrite if he applied the stain and the spot of adam to everyman no exceptions and not apply the blood of Christ to everyman just as the curse of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions the blessings and the blood of Christ have to be applied to everyman in the end . We are all gonna have to go thru the lake of fire simply b/c of our Adamic nature WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE. WHOM THE LORD LOVETH HE CHASENS WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE AND THE H.G. as OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE, OUR OLD ADAMIC NATURE IS GONA BE CONSUMED BY THE FIRE OF GOD . Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains meaning in the end everybody is gonna be bornagain NO EXCEPTIONS, Even the isles of the seas are gonna be converted unto me in the end. Not one single person cd escape the curse of Adam not one thus in the end not one single person will be able to escape the blood and the blessings of Christ not one. If i belifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me and God is no respector of persons. Hell ( the lake of fire ) is just his baptism of fire that we all need. Jesus said that every SINNER will have their part in the lake of fire, thats ALL OF US SINNERS. NONE RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE.As we all carry the stain and the spot of Adam .Thus the blood and the blessings of Christ that 2 nd Adam will be applied to everyman no exceptions he will stain ALL of his raiment which is humanity i was naked and you clothed me. God so loved the world etc . IF Jesus said ye must be bornagain he is gonna see to it that we are all bornagain in the END. IMO thats y the prophets saw the whole world in travail and birth pains its simply the heavenly birth.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    "What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions ." So you believe this includes the rich man in hell who wanted water from Lazarus?

    To whom will Jesus say, "I never knew you." Matthew 7:23

    People weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dieth not and the fire never quenched. Mark 9:42 - 49

    You are heretical in what you are saying, and it appears you are knowingly doing this. I doubt I am the first person to have told you of your error.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Bill thank you for reading me but its you that do greatly err. you are not understanding the new covenant which is all inclusive, if i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me. many will have to go and do their 1st works again .we all have to go thru that lake of fire as we all are sinners and have come short of the glory of god . bill we all need that lake of fire which is baptism of the h.g. and fire as jesus said every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire.bill we are all sinners, that lake of fire is what we need. bill if the stain and the spot of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions then the blood of christ will be applied to every man no exceptions, who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap we all need that lake of fire which is his baptism of fire and the h.g. no exceptions in adam we all die but in christ we will all live jesus died for everybody, his arm is not to short that he cannot reach everyman no matter how sinful. our old adamic nature answers to the red heifer that is gonna be burnt to ashes but what christ did at calvary is gonna save all of us. ok later. gbu
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Alex, you are graced with understanding that not everyone yet has been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Ezekiel 5:1-4 And thou, son of man (Jesus), take thee a barber's razor, and CAUSE (all is of God) it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee three balances to weigh, and divide the hair,

    (2) Thou shall burn with fire (for our God is a consuming fire) a THIRD part in the midst or the city (spiritual Jerusalem), when the days of the siege are fulfilled (they were fulfilled at pentecost): and thou shall take a third part, and smite them with a knife: and a third part thou shall scatter to the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

    (3) Thou shall also take thereof a FEW (find the way) in number, and bind them ( the FEW) in thy skirts.

    (4) then take of them (the FEW) again, and cast them into the mist of the (lake of) fire, and burn them (the FEW) in the fire (our God is a consuming fire); for thereof (the FEW) shall a fire come into the house of Israel.

    Obadiah 21 And saviours (judges) shall come upon mount Zion to judge the mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

    Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the (lake of ) fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they will say, The Lord is my God.

    Revelation 9:18 By these three was the THIRD part of men killed, by the fire, and by smoke, and by brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

    Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. this the FIRST RESURRECTION.

  • I7sharp - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    "Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part ..."

    Earl, how can you justify "adding" the part "(the Holy Ghost)" in the above?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    17sharp, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the reason I can justify adding the Holy Ghost in Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the fire is because:

    II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy (like the words in Zachariah) came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It wasn't Zachariah that was going to bring them (creation) through the fire; but the Holy Ghost.

    Revelation 19:10 ........worship God: for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the (holy) spirit of prophecy.

    I Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which was in them (prophets) did signify, when it (Holy Ghost) testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    II Samuel 23: 1-2 Now these be the last words of David, David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed (by the Holy Ghost) of God of Judah, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

    (2) The spirit of the Lord (Holy Ghost) spake by me, and his (Holy Ghost) words were in my tongue.

    When the Spirit causes you to understand that the words in the bible are the words of Spirit and not of man then the Spirit will start bringing you into spiritual understanding and start washing away worldly wisdom, which is foolishness to God.

    May the Holy Ghost you with his wisdom.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Hiya earl bowman thanks for your spritual insight into the working of the h.g. 2 nd cor. 3 : 6 kjv comes to mind who has made us able ministers of the new testament not of the letter that killeth but of the spirit the h.g. that gives life as even our lord said my words are spirit and life which is the h.g. a living spritual being .
  • Thomas - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Alex.....Liars, cheats, thieves, homosexuals--shall be cast into the lake of fire, burn in hell for eternity.

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